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These Church Members Disagree on Politics. Together They鈥檙e Wiping Out Medical Debt.

WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. 鈥 Some issues, like immigration or student loans, are too divisive to unite Trinity Moravian Church.

鈥淲e鈥檝e got quite a spread of political beliefs,鈥 said the Rev. John Jackman, who leads this 114-year-old red-brick church near Winston-Salem鈥檚 old textile mills. Conservative Republicans sit with liberal Democrats. Supporters of President Donald Trump mix with his fierce critics. 鈥淚t鈥檚 definitely a purple congregation,鈥 Jackman said.

But four years ago, when Jackman suggested a new church mission to alleviate medical debt for residents of the wider Winston-Salem area, there was no dissent. 鈥淭his is the easiest money I鈥檝e ever raised,鈥 he said. 鈥淎ll I do is tell people what we鈥檙e doing, and they write me a check.鈥

Few issues have been more politically explosive in recent years than healthcare, pitting Democrats and Republicans in bitter debates over the Affordable Care Act, Medicaid, and other flash points.

Yet moved by the sense that the medical debts their neighbors faced were deeply unfair, members of Trinity Moravian, no matter their politics, rushed to write $25 or $50 checks to pay off the bills.

They helped advance a movement by churches across the state and the country and inspired North Carolina government officials to tackle medical debt. The effort drew plaudits from conservative radio host Glenn Beck.

The little church鈥檚 success also highlighted a patch of common ground in American healthcare 鈥 widespread anxiety and frustration that so many patients are ending up in debt.

Earlier this year, Trinity wrapped up its eighth medical debt campaign, part of what the church calls its Debt Jubilee Project. This one raised more than $17,000. That helped retire more than $2.2 million in debt. Medical debt can be bought for pennies on the dollar because creditors believe most debts won鈥檛 be paid.

Nationwide, an estimated 100 million adults have some form of healthcare debt. More than half of U.S. adults have had such debt at some point.

At Trinity Moravian Church, which has about 200 members, it wasn鈥檛 hard to find stories of crushing medical bills.

鈥淚 see people going into debt every minute of every day,鈥 said Catherine Coe, who works in the accounting department of a hospital system. 鈥淲e鈥檙e all just one medical bill from financial ruin.鈥

Coe grew up coming to Trinity with her grandmother. She drifted away from the church as an adult before rejoining the congregation last year. Coe, who describes herself as a conservative, voted for Trump.

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鈥淚 see people going into debt every minute of every day,鈥 says Catherine Coe. Coe works in the accounting department of a large health system. (Allison Lee Isley for 杨贵妃传媒視頻 Health News)
A woman stands by a bookshelf.
Terri Mabe used to work in the construction industry and has seen the effects of medical debt up close. 鈥淵ou get sick. Next thing you know, you owe $5,000, $10,000,鈥 she says. (Allison Lee Isley for 杨贵妃传媒視頻 Health News)

Terri Mabe, who鈥檚 been coming to Trinity for decades, is on the other side of the nation鈥檚 political divide. She said she can鈥檛 stand the president, who she said 鈥渉ad no real concern for the people of this country.鈥

Mabe, 70, has also seen medical debt up close. She used to work in the construction industry.

鈥淚n between projects you are a lot of times without a job,鈥 she said. 鈥淭hen you get sick. Next thing you know, you owe $5,000, $10,000 that you cannot pay. You鈥檙e barely paying your home bills. Then you鈥檙e like: 鈥業 can鈥檛 pay it. What do I do now?鈥欌

Both Coe and Mabe said partisan differences don鈥檛 matter. 鈥淭here isn鈥檛 a political divide when it comes to medical debt,鈥 Coe said. 鈥淚t all brings us together.鈥

Jackman said he got the idea to do something about medical debt during the pandemic, when growing numbers of people turned to the church for help.

鈥淚 was hearing about the reason they couldn鈥檛 pay their electric bill was because they鈥檇 had a few days in the hospital and then they got hit with this huge bill and it snowballed,鈥 he recalled. 鈥淎nd I started hearing this again and again and again.鈥

Jackman learned about a nonprofit called Undue Medical Debt that buys unpaid medical bills from hospitals and debt collectors so the debts can be retired.

The church鈥檚 first campaign, in 2022, set a goal of raising $5,000 to retire about $500,000 in medical debt owed by residents of surrounding Forsyth County. The campaign hit its goal in just six weeks, fueled mostly by donations of less than $50.

Jackman, who鈥檚 been a pastor for more than four decades, attributed part of the success to an ethos of the church. 鈥淥ne of our ideas is that we cannot fix everything, but we have to fix what we can in the place where we鈥檙e planted,鈥 he said.

Trinity members, no matter their political leanings, also said they see something broken in a system that pushes sick people into debt.

Paul Sluder, 78, who doesn鈥檛 identify with a political party, used to work for a credit union. He said he did a lot of debt collecting before he retired.

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Paul Sluder says people shouldn鈥檛 end up in debt if they get sick. 鈥淭he system鈥檚 out of whack,鈥 he says. (Allison Lee Isley for 杨贵妃传媒視頻 Health News)

Most people, he said, wanted to pay what they owed. If they got sick, they often had no choice but to go into debt.

鈥淵ou have kind of no control. You have to take care of yourself or your loved ones,鈥 Sluder said. 鈥淚t鈥檚 incredibly unfair, and I think the system鈥檚 out of whack.鈥

Polls suggest there鈥檚 a lot of common ground around medical debt.

In a for Undue Medical Debt, more than 75% of Republicans and Democrats said collection agencies shouldn鈥檛 be allowed to garnish patients鈥 wages to pay medical debt. And in recent years, bipartisan measures to expand protections from medical debt have passed in blue and red states.

Coe, a Republican, said she would support even more limits on how much medical debt people could be forced to carry. 鈥淲hy can鈥檛 we cap medical debt at a certain dollar amount, and after that it鈥檚 either written off or forgiven?鈥 she asked.

After completing the most recent debt campaign, Trinity hosted a special ceremony, assisted by kids from a local Scouting group.

Jackman stood before the congregation and held up a piece of paper with a long list of names, people in the county whose debt had been bought and retired by the church.

鈥淥n this day of Jubilee,鈥 Jackman announced, 鈥渨e act to forgive the debts of many of our neighbors as God has forgiven our debts.鈥

As the congregation stood, Jackman flicked on a lighter and burned the list of 1,631 names. The paper was consumed by yellow flame. The scouts set off confetti poppers. The choir sang, and the congregation erupted in cheers.

Rev. John Jackman burns a piece of paper.
Jackman burns a list of names of people in surrounding Forsyth County whose debt was bought and retired by the church. (Allison Lee Isley for 杨贵妃传媒視頻 Health News)
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Kids from a local Scouting group helped Jackman celebrate as the church marked the end of its latest Debt Jubilee Project campaign to buy up and retire medical debt. (Allison Lee Isley for 杨贵妃传媒視頻 Health News)

Afterward, members went downstairs for a spaghetti lunch in the church basement, served by the scouts.

Reflecting on the day鈥檚 festivities, many members of the congregation said they hoped their work on medical debt could inspire others to bridge political differences and work together.

鈥淭here鈥檚 just so much division, so much anger,鈥 said Cynthia Tesh, 72.

鈥淲e need to look out for one another,鈥 she said. 鈥淚f we start looking out for one another, things will change. If we start considering other people and not just ourselves, things will change.鈥

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Cynthia Tesh says she hopes her congregation鈥檚 medical debt campaign can inspire more people to work together. 鈥淚f we start looking out for one another, things will change,鈥 she says. (Allison Lee Isley for 杨贵妃传媒視頻 Health News)

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