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Healthcare issues continue to be front and center in the midterm campaigns. Democrats are hammering Republicans on the federal funding cuts to Medicaid included in 2025’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act, even before many of the reductions take full effect. Republicans, for their part, are accusing Democrats of failing to fight fraud and abuse in federal programs.

Meanwhile, President Donald Trump this week unveiled initiatives aimed at improving women’s health and rewarding whistleblowers who uncover fraud, despite the fact that there are long-standing federal programs addressing both issues. It’s unclear what’s new that the programs will bring to the table.

This week’s panelists are Julie Rovner of Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News, Alice Miranda Ollstein of Politico, Amanda Seitz of Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News, and Liz Essley Whyte of The Wall Street Journal.

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Among the takeaways from this week’s episode:

  • As Election Day approaches, Democrats and Republicans are working to keep their healthcare messages front of mind for voters. Democrats, seeking to win control of Congress, are pointing fingers at the GOP for high health costs and insurance coverage losses, particularly among Medicaid enrollees. Republican candidates in turn are pointing to the rural health funding Congress approved alongside the Medicaid spending reductions, though their Democratic opponents note that the funding amounts to a fraction of the cuts.
  • Meanwhile, Republicans are pushing their own message targeting fraud, waste, and abuse in federal healthcare programs. The Trump administration has announced another major deferment of federal Medicaid funding for California, citing dramatic growth in home care costs. Trump officials say that growth suggests potential fraud and warrants action, while California officials say it represents actual increases in costs and demand.
  • In other administration announcements, Trump unveiled a new women’s health initiative with first lady Melania Trump by his side. Yet the initiative has no concrete policy goals or funding, leaving it unclear what exactly it will accomplish.
  • New research is illuminating the inherent flaws in Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s push to stop recommending the birth dose of the hepatitis B vaccine. Plus, the board of the National Institutes of Health research hospital denounced the launch of Kennedy’s Vaccine Injury Center, accusing the health secretary of undermining trust in science.

Also this week, Rovner interviews Ollstein, whose new book, , comes out Oct. 27.

Plus, for “extra credit” the panelists suggest health policy stories they read this week that they think you should read, too: 

Julie Rovner: Vox’s “,” by Rachel Cohen Booth. 

Alice Miranda Ollstein: Stat’s “,” by Tyler Shultz.

Liz Essley Whyte: Stat’s “,” by Tara Bannow.

Amanda Seitz: The New York Times’ “,” by Andrew Jacobs.

Also mentioned in this week’s podcast:

click to open the transcript Transcript: Medicaid Is Now a Campaign Issue

[Editor’s note: This transcript was generated using transcription software. It has been edited for style and clarity.] 

Julie Rovner: Hello, from Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News and WAMU Public Radio in Washington, D.C. Welcome to What the Health? I’m Julie Rovner, chief Washington correspondent for Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News. And, as always, I’m joined by some of the best and smartest health reporters covering Washington. We’re taping this week on Thursday, Oct. 22, at 10 a.m. As always, news happens fast, and things might have changed by the time you hear this. So here we go. Today we are joined via video conference by Alice Miranda Ollstein of Politico. 

Alice Miranda Ollstein: Hello. 

Rovner: Liz Essley White of The Wall Street Journal. 

Liz Essley Whyte: Hi. 

Rovner: And my Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News colleague Amanda Seitz. 

Amanda Seitz: Hey, thanks for having me. 

Rovner: Later in this episode, we’ll have my interview with Alice here, whose brand-new book, Side Effects: How Abortion Bans Impact Everyone’s Health, comes out officially next week. But first, this week’s news. 

Let’s start with Medicaid. Election Day is less than two weeks away, and, despite the fact that Republicans tried to backload the Medicaid cuts in their 2025 budget bill so that most of them wouldn’t start until next year, Democrats appear to be making some headway using them as a campaign issue already this year. . Start us off. 

Ollstein: Yeah. So the cuts are hitting people already. People are already feeling them, and that’s for a few different reasons. One, some states have decided to pull the trigger early on work requirements, and even those that are waiting until the congressionally set January deadline, they’re already receiving notices, and so they’re freaked out about their coverage. Also, even though the cuts are not taking effect, states have to make their budgets in advance to prepare for them. Hospitals need to make their budgets in advance to prepare for them. And so you’re already seeing cutbacks in other areas — in services, in programs — and so people are feeling that. And the impact is happening way outside Medicaid as well: People on private insurance, whether they get it on the individual market or through their job, are seeing really big increases in costs. And Democrats are capitalizing on that and are connecting what the pain people are feeling to Republicans’ basically one major piece of legislation that they passed over their two years in power, which is the quote-unquote “One Big Beautiful Bill” that had all these healthcare provisions tucked into it. And so I found that in basically every single Senate debate that I’ve been watching in these battleground states, there was almost identical exchanges, where Democrats attacked about the Medicaid cuts, Republicans responded by pointing to the rural health funding in the bill and saying, You know, I fought for that, and I guess you hate rural health because you criticize this bill. Then Democrats responded, OK, the rural health funding is great, but it’s just a fraction of what states are losing on other federal health funding. And so this is just playing out again and again and again — in Michigan and Maine and Alaska and all of these states that have these close races. 

Rovner: Yeah, and we’ll talk about this more next week. But the KFF annual employer survey is out just this morning, and it shows not only, I mean, what we already knew, which is that premiums are going up, but it also shows that employers are starting to pass along the cost of those increased premiums to their employees. So it kind of balloons the idea that people are really feeling the increases in healthcare costs. 

Seitz: Yeah, I think the issue is less about the Medicaid cuts themselves and more about that idea that healthcare costs are rising at every level, and no one has offered a solution to really fix that. If you recall, President [Donald] Trump said that he had “concepts of a plan” to fix the ACA [Affordable Care Act]. Well, instead, all we got were cuts to Medicaid, higher ACA premiums, higher premiums for private insurance. So I think that people see there’s kind of no real road map being offered here to get out of this situation of continuously rising costs and access to care becoming increasingly more difficult. But I think the hard part now for Democrats, in particular, becomes OK, what is your plan? And they have not offered a clear, unified vision for what they will do. We’re still kind of waiting to see what that might be. So if they do succeed in taking back control of Congress, for example, that’s going to be a real challenge for them to quickly come up with a plan so they’re not in the same position two years from now. 

Rovner: Right. I mean, at some point they’re going to have to fight about what it is they want to do. But right now, they could just point to what the Republicans have done. Well, meanwhile, the Trump administration this week is doubling down on its healthcare fraud fight, announcing it will freeze another $1.2 billion in federal Medicaid funding to California. That’s on top of the $2.2 billion already withheld this year, mostly about home care programs. The administration says the program’s rapid growth signals something fraudulent, although it hasn’t provided evidence. California says it’s just responding to growing demand, and that, by the way, providing home care is actually cheaper than paying for institutional care that patients might otherwise need. How’s the whole fraud thing playing with voters? Is there any traction, and does it make, I wonder, an impact that they seem to be mostly going after blue states — first Minnesota, California, apparently now New York? 

Ollstein: I see this as sort of under the umbrella of “things that have long been popular in theory becoming less popular once people see the impact in real life.” And so I think that has also been true of the concept of Medicaid work requirements. When people were polled about it before, in theory, people are, like, “Yeah, you should have to work, etc.” And now, when they’re seeing people losing their insurance who are working or have a legitimate health issue, that popularity is crashing. And I think the same is true of these fraud crackdowns, where they are popular when polled on, you know, the general concept of them. But these cuts are hitting a lot of real patients, and, like you noted, it has the appearance of being very politicized because it’s mainly been targeting California, Minnesota — states run by Democratic governors, and not just any Democratic governors, but those that have clashed with the administration very openly. 

Rovner: Yeah, I think the other thing is when you get into the details of some of this, you know, they say when they’re talking about fraud, you know, Oh well, these are people who are carrying groceries and doing things that family members should be doing for free. But in a lot of these cases, when you’re paying a family member for care, they’re doing things like changing IV lines and helping people go to the bathroom. It’s not just running errands. This is, in many cases, real medical care that family members are providing in lieu of going to other jobs. And it’s basically, as I said, keeping people out of institutions, which, in the long run, is a lot cheaper to pay somebody to care for their own loved one than it is to put them in a nursing home. I just, I feel like this is sort of being missed in this whole fight. 

Seitz: I also think that it’s really hard for this to resonate when, frankly, people aren’t seeing any result from this fraud push. Their taxes aren’t necessarily going down as a result of these busts. The federal deficit is continuing to skyrocket in this administration, as we talked about: Healthcare costs are rising. So it’s like, as Alice was saying, it’s a really good talking point, especially for conservatives who oppose big government. But I don’t know that it’s going to move the needle if voters aren’t seeing any change in their daily life. 

Rovner: Yeah, that’s a good point. 

Whyte: I do think Republicans think it’s worth spending time on because we’re seeing near-daily announcements about some kind of fraud crackdown from CMS [Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services] or DOJ [Department of Justice] or Vice President [JD] Vance’s task force. I mean, it’s a deluge of these announcements, including the one yesterday about New York’s adult daycare program, which Dr. [Mehmet] Oz called “a plague to the state.” 

Rovner: Yeah, they are definitely playing it up. It seems to be their major campaign issue. … This is all goes with the whole “drain the swamp” thing. Well, in a preview of what we can expect if Democrats retake the majorities in the House and/or Senate, three top senators on the Senate Finance Committee that oversees Medicare and Medicaid are calling for the administration to impose more standards on the private contractors who run most state Medicaid eligibility computer systems. The systems — say possible incoming Finance chair Ron Wyden of Oregon, along with Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts and Raphael Warnock of Georgia — have already demonstrated that they don’t always accurately reflect who is and isn’t eligible for Medicaid, and that the coming implementation of the work requirements in January could mean that millions of people could be bounced off their health insurance wrongly. I would think this would be something to watch pretty closely come January. I think no matter who is in charge of Congress, this is, I know, a big concern. You know, the administration keeps saying, “Oh, we’ve got these computer systems, and they’re going to do all of this in the background, and everything’s going to be fine.” And you know, I know, Alice, I keep asking you to reiterate this, but the last time we tried this in 2018 with the work requirements, things were not so fine with the eligibility systems.  

Ollstein: That’s right. So the states that had a sort of pilot version of this before it became mandatory for everyone found that the work requirements did not increase employment. It did not cause more people to get off the couch and work, and, you know, which is sort of how it’s been framed in the public discourse. Instead, it led to a lot of people who should have been eligible — either because they were working or they had a legitimate claim on one of the exceptions: caregiving, going to school, having a medical condition, etc. — they lost their insurance because they were unable to navigate the bureaucracy, not because they were not actually eligible. And so that is what is predicted to happen again on a much bigger scale now. 

Rovner: Well, this is definitely one to watch, and I would think that even if Republicans keep the Senate, they’re going to have to keep a wary eye on this because if things go sideways, they will say that is not what they intended. Meanwhile, over at the White House, President Trump, with first lady Melania Trump at his side, signed an executive order on Monday establishing a White House Women’s Health Task Force and a, quote, “new” Women’s Health Division at the National Institutes of Health. Except the NIH has had an Office of Women’s Health since 1990. I covered its creation, which came after a gigantic bipartisan effort by women members in the House and in the Senate. The office was codified in legislation that was passed in 1993, and women’s health offices intended to address disparities in research and treatment into women’s health ailments were further expanded in the Affordable Care Act in 2010. Does President Trump really think that insisting something is his idea will automatically get people to believe him? Are people believing him that this has never existed before, and that he thought of it, or I guess that Melania thought of it? 

Seitz: Well, I think we can look back to November of 2023, when Jill Biden rolled out a similar measure, and I don’t know that it had any impact on how people felt about the election. I thought the timing of this was also really interesting because the administration has sort of lost its MAHA Mom momentum, and that effort also fizzled out. I mean, you had, at one point, you had all these high-level people in the administration meeting for these MAHA Mom meetings, and then you had “The MAHA Report.” But, like, we didn’t really see a lot of outcome from that. We didn’t see anything happen from that. So I think it will be interesting to see if this task force tries to veer into that direction at all, if it touches on some of the things that we’ve seen, you know, the MAHA crowd focus on — for example, like increasing the fertility rate, educating people on how to get pregnant, menopause research, weaning off of antidepressants, like that’s been the focus. So I’m very curious to watch how much it goes in that direction. 

Rovner: It also goes directly against the whole DEI thing because, you know, diversity, equity, and inclusion includes minorities, but it’s also included women over the years. I’m still sort of shaking my head at the whole thing because it’s just sort of the polar opposite of a lot of what this administration has been working towards for its first two years. Or is it just me? 

Whyte: When I talked to sources about this, it was clear it was a Melania-driven initiative, and even health officials weren’t really sure what it was going to accomplish. I mean, this was while it was being developed, so maybe they have a clearer picture now. But it didn’t seem like they thought it would be substantively impactful. 

Rovner: Also, there’s no money attached to it. 

Ollstein: I was just gonna say that. I think that’s really the biggest tell here. There’s no new funding. In fact, many programs that focus on women’s health have been cut significantly by this administration. Grants have been canceled, etc. Some grants focused on women’s health have been canceled because they’ve been labeled DEI, as you noted, and there’s also no deadline for any kind of delivery from this initiative. And so I kind of think of it in a similar category as the fertility announcements, which talked a big game and didn’t have a lot of new funding or meaningful programs behind it. 

Rovner: Or policy, for that matter. It’s just sort of statements of intent. Well, the president also this week “discovered,” air quotes, the idea of rewarding whistleblowers who help uncover fraud in federal programs, announcing something called the Fraud Whistleblower Incentive Program to crowdsource tips on federal program fraud. This is also something that is not new. The Federal False Claims Act actually dates back to 1863, during the Civil War, and, in fact, Republican Sen. Charles Grassley of Iowa has spent much of his career pushing for expansions to make it easier for whistleblowers to receive compensation for uncovering fraud. Now, this sounds great, and it does go hand in hand with the administration’s focus on fraud, but again, are voters actually going to believe that he’s the first person to think of this? 

Whyte: I don’t know if voters will believe that, but what I would more wonder is whether any of that is breaking through at all. I mean, the voters …  

Rovner: Yeah, are they even going to hear it? 

Whyte: Yeah, polls show affordability is at the top of voters’ minds. Fox News had a poll recently that said corruption was at the top of voters’ minds. They have bigger fish to fry, I think, when they’re going to the polls than whistleblower payments, regardless of whether it’s a good policy idea or not. 

Rovner: I did see a social media post that people have been flooding this new fraud whistleblower line with tips about corruption in the administration, which was not the intent, I don’t think. We’ll see how that plays out. All right. Next: news about the Affordable Care Act. You might remember that last month the administration announced it was dropping three-quarters of a million enrollees from ACA plans, saying that their enrollments were likely fraudulent and that they were likely not even real people. Now, according to my Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News colleague Julie Appleby, they’re adding a, quote, “small number” back. Apparently, those are people who turned out not to be made-up ghosts after all, but actual enrollees whose applications might have lacked required information and who haven’t filed a claim. Now, it is not clear how many people are being added back. The Washington Post editorial page suggests that it’s only 51 people so far. But isn’t it possible that there are way more of those people who just don’t yet know they’ve lost their coverage because they’re healthy and they haven’t tried to use it? After all, the people who got cut off are people who, by definition, haven’t filed any claims. 

Seitz: Julie, you and I have talked about this, like, in the newsroom — just, you know, I didn’t even go to my primary care doctor until like a week or two ago, so that’s totally possible. I think what I find most interesting, though, about this is that there’s clearly a problem, right, with the broker system. 

Rovner: Absolutely. 

Seitz: And both sides of the aisle have raised concerns about insurance brokers. And in normal times, this would be kind of one of those issues that you might see some legislation on. But it seems they’re not really working toward any sort of thing around that, and it’s a missed opportunity, frankly, for folks to come together and look into regulating this industry a little tighter. 

Rovner: Yes, and another hat tip to Julie Appleby, who helped break some of the stories about the broker fraud. Indeed, they’re, you know, one of the problems when they created these zero-premium plans is that they actually gave brokers an incentive to switch people without their knowing it, or to sign up fake people so that they could get the commissions. It is a problem. Everybody acknowledges it’s a problem. But pulling off people who didn’t have their entire Social Security number, or, you know, they haven’t filed a claim. Not all those people are going to be fraudulent, and I’m just wondering if, yeah, if it’s only a couple of 100 people, there probably won’t be a backlash. But if there’s many thousands of these people who eventually discover that they are not covered and that they thought they were, there could be a backlash. I see nods. All right. Well, they’re talking, apparently, the administration is looking at another half a million enrollees with the intention of perhaps cutting them off. So we will see how this one plays out. All right. We’re going to take a quick break. We will be right back. 

Turning to news out of the Department of Health and Human Services, two new studies out this week suggest that Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s policy change to stop recommending a birth dose of the hepatitis B vaccine could dramatically increase cases of the chronic disease that can cause liver cancer and other lifelong health problems. One study in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine modeled what could happen if the policy is changed from recommended to what’s called shared decision-making [and] found it could result in half of all children entering adulthood susceptible to the highly contagious virus, and a more than 80% increase in cases. The other study that was presented at an infectious disease meeting by Kaiser Permanente researchers found that most young children who were exposed to the virus were exposed by someone other than their mothers. That suggests that even if a mom is tested and tests negative, that doesn’t necessarily protect the baby. I don’t expect that these studies are going to change any minds, though, among the sort of anti-vaccine activists and the, I guess what we could call, the vaccine-skeptical and vaccine doubters, right? 

Ollstein: I do think it’s notable that specifically on these vaccine studies and policy considerations seems to really have hit a nerve with the administration because they are going all out on attacking the individual reporters, accusing them of having sources who are making up information, etc. And so that sort of shows that at least they are, you know, worried about this maybe hitting home for folks. 

Rovner: Maybe a little sensitive? 

Seitz: And Julie, I think that, too, I mean, it will help down the road, right? Because this is what we have heard from public health researchers or anyone who’s really worked in public health, doctors, is this exact concern: that this is how this would play out, reducing the recommendations. And … 

Rovner: Not to mention Senate HELP [Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions] Committee Chairman Bill Cassidy. 

Seitz: Yes, that was on my list as well — the liver doctor who warned that this is exactly what will happen. So it gives us, one, a road map to what our future will look like, and helps public health researchers prepare in that sense. And then also, it gives a lot of fodder down the road for We knew that this was going to happen, and here is, we predicted it would happen, and no one listened. So it really puts a lot of culpability in the administration’s hands. 

Rovner: Well, in related vaccine news, that the board that oversees the hospital on the NIH campus here in Bethesda, Maryland, delivered a public rebuke of the secretary over his establishment of a new office to study vaccine injuries and accused the secretary of undermining trust in science. Now, this board is made up of people outside the government, so I imagine it’s easier for them to criticize the secretary without fearing for their jobs. But still, I can’t imagine they won’t be rather quickly replaced?  

Seitz: That was exactly my first thought: Is how quickly is Kennedy going to try and replace this board? And we know that the White House has been forcing Jay Bhattacharya into some very uncomfortable positions over the last couple weeks, and some very uncomfortable conversations with folks. So, you know, this is yet another one that he’s probably going to be tasked with tackling, I would guess.  

Rovner: I have to say, I live up the street from the NIH Clinical Center — I pass it multiple times week — I had no idea there was an independent board that oversees literally the running of the hospital and for safety and efficiency services. I mean, this is the large hospital on the NIH campus where people who are in clinical trials can be cared for. I mean, lots of people are in clinical trials in other places in the country, but there are some people who end up coming to NIH, and the Clinical Center is where they end up if they need to be hospitalized. So, I mean, it is a rather substantial-sized facility. I was just, I was surprised to see them, of all people, standing up and saying this is not necessarily a great thing to do. We will watch how that one plays out too.  

Well, finally this week the administration has delayed a policy change that was to take place today that would have made it harder for people to order cheaper drugs from licensed pharmacies in Canada and other countries that have, you know, price controls. While it’s always been technically illegal to buy drugs through the mail from other countries, U.S. officials have long looked the other way at small amounts that are imported for personal use. According to a study from 2020, more than 2 million Americans purchase their medications from other countries. Now, the administration isn’t canceling the policy change that’s going to make it basically impossible for people to get their drugs this way — it’s just pushing it back 90 days, so safely beyond Election Day. Still, it’s kind of hard to square this with the administration’s claims that drug prices are coming down, unless they say that drug prices are coming down enough that you don’t have to buy your medicine from Canada anymore, that it won’t be cheaper? 

Whyte: I think there’s enough people doing this that it just seems like it would actually be a bad move politically ahead of the midterms. You know, people are reliant on these cheaper drugs, and to have that pathway cut off, I imagine, would cause a kerfuffle. But, so it wasn’t surprising to see this delay. I was kind of surprised they were going to do it in the first place. 

Rovner: It’s funny. It’s been on the podcast rundown every week for, like, the last three weeks. I keep putting it off because it’s getting closer. And then, of course, last week at almost the very last minute, the administration announced, “Never mind, we’re not going to do this right now.” But yeah, also, I mean, all through August and September, people were starting to get these letters that said, “Hey, you know …” — when they were getting their drugs, it’s like: “You know, after Oct. 22, we’re not going to be able to do this anymore.” So now it’s going to be after January-something. I mean, I’ll be interested to see if they actually go through with this because I think you’re right, Liz. There are a lot of people who — and I’ve seen other estimates that it’s as many as 4 million people who are getting their drugs this way. And it is not a way to make friends and influence people, shall we say? Particularly when lowering drug prices is one of your administration’s big, you know, achievements, according to what the president keeps saying at all of these rallies. 

All right, that is this week’s news. Now we’ll play my interview with Alice about her book, and then we’ll come back and do our extra credits. 

I am pleased to welcome to the interview portion of the podcast my friend, colleague, and podcast panelist Alice Miranda Ollstein, whose brand-new book, Side Effects: How Abortion Bans Impact Everyone’s Health, comes out next week. Alice, thanks for being here. 

Ollstein: Thank you, Julie. 

Rovner: So, as our regular podcast listeners know well, you’ve been covering the impact of the Supreme Court’s overturn of Roe v. Wade since it happened. What made you want to take some extra time and write a book about it? 

Ollstein: Yeah, so over the course of my reporting for Politico, I was traveling all around the country, and readers of Politico know that the focus is politics. So it was a lot about the political impact of the Dobbs ruling and state abortion bans and how people were reacting to them, the ballot initiatives, the candidates, etc. But as I was doing that reporting, I kept hearing over and over from patients, from doctors, from medical researchers, from all kinds of people who are involved in the healthcare system in some way bringing up these impacts that they were seeing that I just thought were not getting enough attention. These were impacts not only on care for pregnant people but healthcare for everyone — for men, for people living in blue states, for people living in red states, for old people, for young people — and this just kept coming up over and over. And I really wanted to write this book to sort of capture that bigger picture and capture that even though these laws were tailored to really go after abortion, they were having these broader impacts across the healthcare system. And it’s just very, very hard to separate. 

Rovner: What’s the most unexpected consequence or far-flung consequence that you found after nearly half the states banned abortion? 

Ollstein: Two things: one, the impact on healthcare for people with chronic conditions, pregnant or not, and then the other is the impact on medical research. How medical research, both on abortion, on pregnancy, on contraception, and on completely unrelated areas of healthcare were compromised. Some medical studies were delayed, some were made more burdensome and expensive, and some were scuttled altogether as a result of post-Dobbs restrictions. And that just kept cropping up in really interesting. In surprising ways. So, back to the care for people with chronic conditions, what happened after Dobbs is that in lots of different places — in states with bans, in states with abortion protections — patients who depend on certain medications to manage their chronic illnesses, drugs like methotrexate, which is sometimes used to terminate an ectopic pregnancy, and lots of different kinds of drugs — neurological drugs, drugs for autoimmune conditions that have the potential to cause a birth defect if you take them while pregnant. So doctors, pharmacists, insurers became a lot more scared of dispensing these drugs to patients with chronic conditions, even though they had completely valid diagnoses of lupus, Crohn’s, all kinds of conditions where they depend on these medications. 

Rovner: Yeah, rheumatoid arthritis is a big one, right? 

Ollstein: Mm-hmm. Absolutely. And so I just kept hearing about patients who, in some cases, had been taking these drugs for years and years and years, and really depended on them just to get through the day, honestly, and not experience, like, a flare-up of inflammation or other symptoms. And suddenly they were being, you know, grilled on what are you using this for? They experienced days of delays, and some of them were unable to get the medication altogether, and it really had an impact on their health. And so there were some lawsuits related to this, there were some advocacy campaigns related to this, the Biden administration took action on it, and the Trump administration rolled back those actions. And so I just really wanted to shine a light on how this was hitting people who aren’t even physically capable of being pregnant. In some of these medication-denial stories, I found, you know, it was happening to prepubescent children. In one of the circumstances, it happened to someone who had had a hysterectomy. So there’s no way an abortion could happen even accidentally. And you know, it happened to a lot of people who were taking contraception or who were just too chronically ill to sustain a pregnancy. And it still had this, you know, big impact because of the fear and confusion throughout the medical system. 

Rovner: And what about the research part? 

Ollstein: Yeah, absolutely. So that took a lot of different forms. So one category was research on abortion drugs specifically, to look into potential other uses for them. There are a lot of promising studies going on, some in the U.S. and a lot in other countries that don’t have the same restrictions about other uses of the drug mifepristone for cancer, for uterine fibroids, for all kinds of things. Some of those studies are still moving forward, but there were all kinds of delays and hurdles because they were taking place in a state with a ban, and the researchers had trouble even obtaining the medication. Even, in one circumstance I write about in detail, on a study that is only testing the medication on older male veterans of Operation Desert Storm. And still the researcher had a lot of trouble obtaining the drug, obtaining permission to do the study, obtaining funding, etc., and faced years of delays. And so these veterans that could really benefit from this medication, according to her research, still can’t get it. 

Rovner: I would say, people who are clearly not going to be using it to terminate a pregnancy. 

Ollstein: Exactly, these are older men. So those studies are still moving forward, but face years and years of delays. Other studies, including a study out of Indiana testing whether mifepristone could help people with breast cancer, especially people who were getting preventive mastectomies because they had the gene that put them at high risk, they were testing whether maybe taking mifepristone could help them avoid having to do that major surgery. That study was canceled altogether because the researcher was so concerned about losing access to mifepristone in the middle of the study and of, you know, facing potential legal consequences because she was based in a state with a ban that she just abandoned it altogether. In addition to the impact on studies on mifepristone, there’s all kinds of impacts that I found happening in the research space. It’s become harder to study abortion, even though we sort of need those studies more than ever because we want to know what are the medical and sociological and all kinds of impacts of these bans? You know, the government and the healthcare system can’t help people if they don’t know what’s happening. But those studies that depend on interviewing patients who are considering abortion to determine what factors push someone one way or another, those have become much harder because there is a fear among researchers that they could be charged under these so-called aiding and abetting laws in certain states. They don’t know if it could be considered aiding and abetting if they even talk to a study participant about what they’re thinking, and if that study participant goes on to get an abortion, you know, could they be charged? They’re not sure, and so those studies have become much harder to do. And I also found impacts on clinical trials that have nothing to do with abortion, nothing even to do with pregnancy. But there is a concern that representation of women of reproductive age in these clinical trials — which is already quite bad, women of reproductive age are really underrepresented in medical research, and only were included at all more recently. You know, we just don’t know if all kinds of drugs even work on women because they were only tested on men. And researchers are concerned now that we’re going to backslide on the little progress we have made on that front because they’re saying, look, how can a woman feel comfortable participating in a clinical trial of a new drug if, you know, that new drug could cause birth defects? She becomes accidentally pregnant during the course of the study, and she’s not able to get a termination based on what state she’s in. How can she feel comfortable participating at all? Meanwhile, bioethicists and experts told me that if research is only limited to states that allow abortion, that could completely skew the data because people have different health status, and those, you know, it’s important to study people in many geographic areas of the country in order to get good data, and now that’s under threat. 

Rovner: Lots of things that I think people didn’t anticipate. Another trend you highlight is the increased activism of the medical community itself. I always used to say that the American Medical Association was allergic to abortion, in that it never wanted to address the issue because it had members on both sides of a very hot topic and it didn’t want to anger any of its constituency. That’s changed, too, in the wake of the overturn of Roe, hasn’t it? 

Ollstein: Absolutely. So both these big national organizations, like the AMA, but also state-level organizations that also used to really try to steer clear of abortion because, you know, they didn’t want to alienate any of their members or their members’ patients. And it was just seen as this, you know, sort of political third rail. But as a result of seeing the impacts of these restrictions on their members’ ability to practice medicine, the organizations have decided to take a stronger stand. They’re writing amicus briefs. They’re passing resolutions. They’re lobbying their state and federal legislators.  

Rovner: Some of them are running for office.  

Ollstein: Exactly. So, I think combined with the institutions really changing their behavior, individual doctors are really changing their behavior. And, like you said, they’re running for office. They’re out on the campaign trail campaigning for the candidates they feel, you know, will uphold abortion access and keep the government from meddling in medicine in other ways. They are, you know, participating in lawsuits. You know, getting active in all kinds of ways we’ve never seen before. You know what I also found was that abortion providers, as a group, have been politically active and very vocal for a long time. You know, a lot of times they felt like they had to be. But what’s really new post-Dobbs is that physicians of lots of different specialties, including many that don’t have anything to do with abortion or pregnancy, have really come off the sidelines, and some of them told me that they were motivated to do so because they did see how this was impacting their work. It was, you know, for instance, going back to the chronic illness thing, you know, I talked to rheumatologists and oncologists who felt like they couldn’t have the conversations with patients freely that they used to be able to have. They couldn’t prescribe certain medications that they wanted to prescribe. But some told me that, Hey, I haven’t really felt the impacts of this at all personally, but I feel motivated to do something because I’m concerned that if the government can and feels emboldened to interfere in medicine in this way, like, what else could they do? What could they do next? And so they wanted to get involved in ballot initiative campaigns and other things to sort of draw that line in the sand. 

Rovner: Alice, lots of really interesting stuff. I think everybody should read the book. Congrats again, and thanks for joining us, as always. 

Ollstein: Thank you so much. 

Rovner: OK, we’re back. It’s time for our extra-credit segment. That’s where we each recognize a story we read this week we think you should read, too. Don’t worry if you miss it. We will post the links in our show notes on your phone or other mobile device. Liz, why don’t you go first this week? 

Whyte: Sure. My extra credit is a Stat story by Tara Bannow [“”]. It’s a great investigation into the middlemen who are now in charge of doing the arbitration for the No Surprises Act, so it starts out with this amazing anecdote of this company that was thinking about getting acquired. I mean, it was really struggling financially, and now three years later has a 70% profit margin. Its revenue has grown thirteenfold. It’s just rolling in the dough, and it’s not alone. I mean, there’s all these middlemen now that are just raking in money from being arbitrators here in a way that is, really, you can’t object to it. I mean, she had a great quote from someone representing employers who referred to them as “mini gods.” And they’re siding with doctors in over 80% of cases. So the insurers and employers are really bent out of shape about this, and they’re also awarding huge sums of money. So she gave the example of a common spine surgery, typically costs $1,400 in-network, and now fetches $34,000 in arbitration at the median, with some providers getting over $100,000. So doctors are loving this, obviously. But there’s a number of lawmakers on the Hill who are looking at this and saying, “Ooh, we have a real problem here. This is not what we were going for.” And now there’s some possible solutions on the table for fixing it. 

Rovner: Yes. I think, of the things that I think that Congress is actually going to tackle at some point in the not-too-distant future, this is, like, pretty high on the list because this was not what they intended when they did the No Surprises Act. Alice. 

Ollstein: My piece is an op-ed in Stat by one of the whistleblowers from Theranos who helped expose Elizabeth Holmes as a fraudster, and the piece is called “.” This is his take on the movie. I hesitate to call it a documentary because it’s more of an art piece. But he’s pointing out that if you just watched the movie and you didn’t know anything else about the background of this case, you would not get an accurate picture of what happened. He notes that she shows pieces of a machine, and it’s not the machine she says it is. He notes that, you know, while this movie sort of poses the question: Did she intentionally lie, or is she just sort of this misunderstood, you know, neurodivergent genius who didn’t communicate things in the way other people did? And he notes that hard evidence came out in trial that she knew she was lying about certain things and very aggressively moved to cover it up and punish the people who tried to expose it. So I think it’s just a good supplement if people do end up watching that movie, which, according to my group chats, many, many people are fascinated and eager to see.  

Rovner: For the record, I am not. But as I said on social media, I’m not interested in hearing your takes on the movie unless you have read the book . And I will link to it in our show notes just in case people are more interested.  

Ollstein: And this whistleblower who wrote this op-ed was one of the sources for Bad Blood. 

Rovner: Yes, it was. Named. Tyler Shultz, so … 

Ollstein: Yes. 

Rovner: Amanda. 

Seitz: My extra credit this week is “,” by Andrew [Jacobs] for The New York Times. This piece looked at how companies are racing to develop new ketamine products to treat depression or substance use disorders in an effort that, as one person described, is feeling “unethical and cash-grabby,” which I just loved that quote. This ketamine arms race of sorts is being promoted, prompted in part by Secretary Kennedy’s embrace of psychedelics, but also the success of a ketamine-like drug developed by Johnson &  Johnson, which is this nasal spray that the FDA recently approved to be used for stand-alone treatment for depression. 

Rovner: It’s quite the eye-opening story. All right, my extra credit this week is from Rachel Cohen Booth at Vox. It’s called “.” It’s about Colorado, which is one of three states that have used the Affordable Care Act’s waiver authority to create a so-called public option health plan — that’s the unicorn that Democrats have talked about for most of this century. Today, roughly half of Colorado’s marketplace customers are now in so-called Colorado option plans, which are state-designed but privately run, and they’re saving roughly $100 per month in premiums for mid-tier coverage, which isn’t a ton of money, but it also isn’t nothing. It hasn’t been smooth sailing, but I think more and more people are now looking at what Colorado and Washington and now Nevada are doing, and it is well worth a read. 

OK, that is this week’s show. Thanks to our editor, Emmarie Huetteman, and our producer-engineer, Francis Ying. A reminder: What the Health? is now available on WAMU platforms, the NPR app, and wherever you get your podcasts — as well as, of course, kffhealthnews.org. Also, as always, you can email us your comments or questions. We’re at whatthehealth@kff.org. Or you can still find me on X , or on Bluesky . Where are you guys hanging on social media these days? Amanda? 

Seitz: I’m on X . 

Rovner: Alice? 

Ollstein: On X and on Bluesky . 

Rovner: Liz. 

Whyte: I am on X and on Bluesky, . Just Google it; it’s too long to say. 

Rovner: You’re findable. We will be back in your feed next week. Until then, be healthy. 

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New Arrivals in the ER? Georgia Gears Up To Solve Rural Maternal Health Crisis /health-industry/obstetric-carts-georgia-maternal-health-labor-delivery-rural-hospitals-south-carolina/ Wed, 21 Oct 2026 09:00:00 +0000 /?p=2296603 LAVONIA, Ga. — It had been a decade since Kara Holden last had a baby. But as the former obstetric nurse prepared for her fourth child, her head was swimming with contingency plans.

The labor and delivery unit where she used to work in this rural northeastern Georgia community is no longer open. So, she asked former co-workers to be on standby around her anticipated due date. She and her midwife mapped out emergency rooms along the more-than-50-mile trek to the hospital in Greenville, South Carolina, where she planned to give birth. And, to prepare for a worst-case scenario, she curated items to keep in the car in case she went into labor en route.

“That’s a horrible place to put a pregnant woman in,” said Holden, who on Oct. 11 made the painful, hourlong trip to Greenville Memorial Hospital to deliver her son Tucker.

Holden lives roughly midway between Athens and Greenville, two of the nearest cities with labor and delivery units. Owing partly to Medicaid cuts from President Donald Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act, St. Mary’s Sacred Heart Hospital in Lavonia nearly a year ago. Its closure is part of a trend touching rural communities nationwide. From South Dakota to and from to , low Medicaid reimbursement and dwindling birth rates are pushing hospitals to shutter these services. Today, of rural hospitals offer labor and delivery services.

A newborn baby in a sage green jumper lays on a hospital baby bed.
Kara Holden welcomed her fourth child, Tucker, on Oct. 11. Holden lives roughly midway between Athens, Georgia, and Greenville, South Carolina, two of the nearest cities with labor and delivery units. She traveled more than 50 miles to Greenville Memorial Hospital to give birth. (Kara Holden)

In Georgia, only 36% of rural hospitals have a labor and delivery unit, and four have closed since 2020, according to data from the .

To address the challenge the closings pose to patients seeking care, the state — which ranks among the for maternal health outcomes — has turned to federal money from the $50 billion . This fund was created by congressional Republicans to offset concerns about the outsize fallout Trump’s signature legislation would have in rural communities.

More than $12 million — out of the nearly $219 million approved for Georgia in the program’s first year — will be allocated toward placing obstetric carts in 43 rural hospitals without labor and delivery units. The carts will be outfitted with supplies needed for a birth or obstetric emergency. For example, they’ll have neonatal resuscitation tools, thermal blankets, and essential medications such as oxytocin, which stimulates contractions, and magnesium sulfate, used to treat seizures in pregnant people with high blood pressure.

The delivery carts sound fine, in theory, said Justin Peterson, an OB-GYN who practices in southern Georgia and has seen the pressures rural health institutions face providing maternal care.

Like Holden, Peterson worries that the carts, while helpful, will put supplies in the hands of ER doctors lacking extensive obstetric experience. Instead, he wants the state to fill coverage gaps by investing more to prevent the closure of labor and delivery units in rural areas.

“You’re putting a band-aid on a hemorrhage,” he said.

The entry sign to St. Mary's Sacred Heart Hospital. A lush green lawn surrounds a large white sign.
St. Mary’s Sacred Heart Hospital in Lavonia, Georgia, stopped providing labor and delivery services in October 2025. Hospital leadership cited Medicaid cuts in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act as the final straw. (Briah Lumpkins/Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)

‘Can’t Practice Scared’

Brittany Mitchell was about seven months pregnant when Sacred Heart’s labor and delivery unit closed. She was reassigned to an OB-GYN in Athens, even though the nearly 50-mile drive from Lavonia was stressful and inconvenient.

That OB-GYN wanted to see Mitchell weekly after finding high levels of protein in her urine — a warning sign of preeclampsia, which can cause organ damage, seizures, and other complications. To make it to those prenatal appointments, she routinely gave up a day of work as a home health aide, a job she said already didn’t pay much.

But if Mitchell were to have another baby, she said, she’d still prefer to drive to Athens to see an OB-GYN than be treated by an ER doctor. When she had her first child nine years ago, the local OB-GYN had to act quickly when her daughter briefly lost oxygen.

“If they were in that situation,” she wondered of ER doctors, “would they know how to do all that?”

In written responses to Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News, Lauren Williams, director of communications for the Georgia Department of Community Health, said that training ER medical staff is the main goal of the obstetric cart initiative. The rollout will include simulation drills, during which ER staff will practice high-risk procedures.

The Georgia Hospital Association will procure and distribute the carts. When exactly that will happen is unknown, but the grant funding must be spent by Sept. 30, 2027, said Anna Adams, the organization’s chief government relations officer.

The concept of obstetric carts is great, said Justin Law, an emergency doctor with SouthlandMD, a physician-owned and -operated healthcare management and staffing company. Most items planned for the carts are already available in ERs. But having them in one organized spot will be helpful, he said.

Still, while ER doctors are more frequently positioned at the front lines as labor and delivery closures persist, advocates argue that they shouldn’t be used as a stopgap in obstetric care.

In the decade he’s worked across rural Georgia, Law said, he’s never delivered a baby in the ER even though he’s trained in emergency obstetrics and has experience delivering babies as a paramedic. When a mother needs an emergency cesarean section or has another high-risk complication, she would likely be transferred to a hospital with labor and delivery capabilities, Law said.

Holden, the former obstetric nurse, said familiarity with obstetric delivery practices and procedures is essential because some complications can’t wait for a transfer. “You’re not going to save anybody’s life just because you got access to some equipment,” she said.

Adams understands the concerns and acknowledged that the ER is not the ideal location for delivering a baby. “But sometimes things happen that are outside of our control,” she said. “And when it does, we want to make sure those hospitals are prepared.”

Robin Clyatt, maternal health community outreach coordinator for , said ER doctors have vast knowledge. But they might see someone with a major maternal health complication, such as a hemorrhage, only a few times a year, and therefore may lack the skills to act immediately, she said.

“You can’t practice scared when it comes to obstetrics,” Clyatt said. “And that’s important, because when you practice scared, you do stupid things.”

A pregnant woman leans over to adjust baby clothes on a hanger.
When Holden was pregnant with her other children, the OB-GYN was only a five-minute drive away. But after the local hospital cut its labor and delivery service, she took extra precautions to ensure she was logistically prepared for the arrival of “baby Tucker.” (Briah Lumpkins/Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)
Vintage trinkets and family heirlooms adorn the shelves of a nursery room.
Holden adorned a nursery with vintage trinkets and family heirlooms in anticipation of the arrival of Tucker. (Briah Lumpkins/Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)

Ways To Keep Access

The labor and delivery unit at the Coffee Regional Medical Center in Douglas serves six counties in southern Georgia. The number of live births there increased from to , which shows the impact when nearby facilities close, said Peterson, who practices at the Coffee Regional Hospital Women’s Center.

While he understands that hospitals must consider their bottom lines, business decisions in recent years have often taken precedence over patient care, he said.

“They just say, ‘Oh, you know, the numbers aren’t there. We’re closing,’” he said, adding that when rural labor and delivery units shutter, the chance they’ll reopen is small.

Mark Ralston, public relations manager for St. Mary’s Health Care System, which owns Sacred Heart, did not respond to multiple requests to further discuss the unit’s closure. But in its announcement, the system said the decision followed “an extensive 18-month discernment process that included intensive efforts to recruit additional physicians, create new partnerships, and pursue incremental funding sources.”

Nationwide, states are attempting to narrow gaps in maternal healthcare using federal funds. will establish maternal health hubs to determine where resources are needed and help mothers navigate the health system. in rural communities.

In its proposal for federal rural transformation money, Georgia included incentives such as funding 75 new residency slots in various specialties and creating a grant program that would reimburse physicians up to $250,000 in relocation fees if they chose to practice in rural areas.

State legislators could incentivize doctors to stay in rural areas, offer higher reimbursement rates for hospitals, and provide loan forgiveness for physicians, Peterson said. Communities should also look to incorporate certified midwives and community health workers, Holden and Clyatt said, though for both groups to practice. Currently, certified nurse midwives are allowed to practice only in partnership with a physician, which maternal health advocates argue creates a .

Holden had the ability to send her vitals to her doctor and meet with them virtually for prenatal care.

As she adorned bookshelves in baby Tucker’s cozy, sage-green nursery with vintage trinkets and family heirlooms, she said she thought of less-resourced mothers in the area, who may be on Medicaid or not have the luxury to travel an hour for a prenatal appointment.

Holden worries that without prenatal care, conditions like preeclampsia could go undiagnosed more often. “They don’t make it, and their baby doesn’t make it, because they never got that diagnosed and managed,” she said.

People like to remain optimistic that everything will go as planned, but “there are so many things that can go wrong,” she said. “And they can go wrong really quick.”

The town entry sign for Lavonia, GA. It is a white wooden sign posted in lush green grass.
Lavonia is a small city near the Georgia-South Carolina border. The local St. Mary’s Sacred Heart Hospital stopped providing obstetric services in October 2025, citing Medicaid cuts. Two of the nearest cities with labor and delivery units are each about an hour away. (Briah Lumpkins/Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)
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Democrats Demand Tougher Standards for Companies Running Medicaid Systems /medicaid/medicaid-eligibility-computer-systems-deloitte-democratic-senators-demand-tougher-standards/ Tue, 20 Oct 2026 09:01:00 +0000 /?p=2298124 A group of Democratic senators is demanding that the federal agency overseeing Medicaid — the health coverage program for people with low incomes or disabilities — institute tougher standards for government contractors running complex computer systems that millions of people rely on to get benefits.

Three Democratic senators issued recommendations a year after launching an inquiry into companies — Deloitte, General Dynamics Information Technology, Gainwell Technologies, and Conduent — that are paid billions in taxpayer dollars to build or run eligibility systems for safety net health coverage. Those benefits, provided to the poorest Americans, can mean the difference between having medical care or going without.

A handful of states directly operate their Medicaid eligibility systems, but most rely on contractors to build and run them. Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News found that Deloitte dominates this slice of government business. Deloitte-run systems have been plagued by errors that can result in eligible people losing their health coverage, previous Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News investigations have shown. Malfunctions can cost millions of taxpayer dollars and take years to fix.

“Administrative errors in this line of work are not like errors in other fields,” the senators . “There are life-and-death consequences for sick Americans who seek care only to find that their Medicaid coverage has been terminated.”

President Donald Trump’s signature tax and domestic policy law has mandated Medicaid changes that are forcing states to adapt their computer systems on a compressed timeline. Medicaid policies under the One Big Beautiful Bill Act add red tape and restrictions that make it harder for people to stay enrolled.

Those include the first federally mandated work requirements in Medicaid’s history. Next year, to keep benefits, millions of adult Medicaid enrollees in more than 40 states must prove they’re working or doing a similar activity for at least 80 hours a month, unless they qualify for an exemption.

Democratic senators Ron Wyden of Oregon, Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, and Raphael Warnock of Georgia say the new restrictions — layered atop computer systems with histories of problems — will result in large numbers of people improperly losing health coverage.

State eligibility systems “have been built up, patched, and frankensteined for decades,” the senators said.

The senators sit on the powerful Senate Finance Committee, which oversees government health programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. Many of their recommendations target the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services. Their ideas face long odds at the moment. Republicans control executive branch agencies, and any potential legislation would need to advance in a Republican-controlled Congress.

That balance of power could shift if Democrats win a majority of Senate seats in November’s midterm elections. The three lawmakers called on CMS to establish mandatory standards in state contracts with companies so states can receive federal funds.

These companies sign contracts with state governments, but the federal government approves them and pays the bulk of the cost. The federal government covers 90% of state costs to develop and implement state Medicaid eligibility systems and 75% of ongoing maintenance and operations expenses, according to federal regulations.

The lawmakers also said CMS should publicize the contracts and contract amendments. Currently, those documents can be obtained from state governments, but accessibility varies significantly.

The senators also said CMS should publicly disclose companies’ performance data and change orders. Change orders are used to adjust computer systems, and states set aside millions of dollars for them. But systems may require fixes beyond the agreed-upon work.

“The millions of Medicaid enrollees who will be required to prove their eligibility every six months, to document every hour of work on a glitchy portal, to find a doctor willing to certify that their cancer or their chronic condition is bad enough to qualify for an exemption — deserve contractors who are accountable for what happens when the system fails them,” they wrote.

In October 2025, the three Democratic senators, as well as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), sent letters to several companies that CMS identified as eligibility system contractors. At the time, they wrote that it is each company’s responsibility to build functioning eligibility systems, “rather than to prioritize their bottom line.”

As of June, were enrolled in Medicaid, according to CMS.

The lawmakers had asked the companies about their contracts, lobbying expenditures, and protocols for making changes in light of system errors, among other issues. The companies provided the lawmakers with some details but often did not answer their questions.

The companies said states are responsible for making the final call on whether a person receives benefits. State workers approve or deny eligibility, Deloitte said in its response letter, “not a private contractor or an automated system acting alone.”

The companies did not provide the senators with specific details about documents or processes they use to help states make eligibility determinations.

The companies also denied they have any financial incentives to remove people from Medicaid. Conduent said it gets paid less if enrollment drops.

The companies did not say whether states are on the hook for paying to fix the companies’ errors.

Deloitte, Gainwell, GDIT, and Conduent said it’s common for states to require that they meet certain performance metrics.

Gainwell told lawmakers, “We take seriously the issues raised.”

GDIT said it would answer additional questions from lawmakers and told Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News that it “has a strong track record” of supporting Medicaid programs. In New York, GDIT said it has a “limited role” in determining eligibility because it relies on rules provided by the state. GDIT operates New York’s online Affordable Care Act marketplace, where New Yorkers can enroll in various health plans, including Medicaid.

Deloitte said in its response to the lawmakers: “We are proud of our work serving individuals and families across the U.S.”

CMS did not respond to a request for comment.

CMS takes steps to check whether Medicaid eligibility systems are working properly. As part of the process for certifying states’ systems, federal officials . They include whether states are correctly calculating people’s incomes, whether individuals are given timely eligibility decisions, and whether eligibility categories are accurate. However, it is rare for the federal government to withdraw federal money from states for falling short.

In August, CMS announced it intends to for Medicaid systems. The ultimate goal is to improve enrollees’ access to care and their experiences with these systems, CMS said. The agency also has said the standards will hold companies accountable to deliver systems that are “continuously improving” and have a “stronger capacity to implement critical policy changes.”

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Next Governor To Face Thorny Choices After California’s Rapid Medicaid Expansion /elections/medicaid-cuts-medi-cal-insurance-immigrants-hilton-becerra-california-governor/ Fri, 16 Oct 2026 09:00:00 +0000 /?p=2292860 In March 2025, when California ran out of Medicaid funds to pay doctors and hospitals, the state borrowed $3.4 billion to keep the program afloat. It was, as a spokesperson for Gov. Gavin Newsom insisted, nothing new. Indeed, a handful of times over the years, the state had taken out internal, short-term loans to sustain its healthcare program for the poor and disabled.

The unprecedented move came a few months later, when Newsom and Democratic state lawmakers agreed to pay down the loan — which grew to $4.4 billion — instead of later in the year. California’s healthcare safety net, it seemed, was buckling.

Rising healthcare costs systemwide were partly to blame. But so were several state-led expansions that made California’s Medicaid program, known as Medi-Cal, one of the nation’s most generous.

Now, with congressional Republicans’ One Big Beautiful Bill Act expected to reduce federal Medicaid spending by more than $900 billion over 10 years, California and dozens of other states must contemplate the limits of their generosity. The problem is particularly acute in the nation’s most populous state, which spends more on Medicaid than combined.

“We know we can’t afford to serve everybody we want to serve in the model that we have today,” said Mark Ghaly, the former top Newsom health official who now co-chairs , a 29-person panel with the goal of modernizing and sustaining California’s Medicaid program for those who need it. “What can we do differently? What can we do smarter?”

The 2025 law that Newsom, a Democrat, has dubbed President Donald Trump’s is expected to leave millions more Americans without health insurance, mostly because of new . It also curbs the use of healthcare provider taxes and other strategies states have deployed to maximize federal funds. Some state lawmakers and consumer advocates have argued the federal cuts, along with rising costs, present an opportunity for the next governor to overhaul a program plagued by long appointment wait times, low reimbursement rates for healthcare providers, and volatile financing.

“If we continue to just give millions and millions into the same system and expect something different — I’m sick and tired of that,” said Caroline Menjivar, a Democratic state senator representing a Los Angeles-area district where roughly half of constituents rely on Medi-Cal.

Democratic lawmakers, who have often clashed with Newsom on Medi-Cal rollbacks, succeeded in getting him to delay a number of painful cuts until 2027 in hopes that a new governor might reverse them.

So far, neither of the candidates running in the November election to replace Newsom have offered substantive proposals for weathering the upheaval health policy experts say is on the horizon for a program that covers 1 in 3 Californians — roughly 13.6 million people.

Republican Steve Hilton, a former Fox News commentator, wants to pare back Medi-Cal eligibility and has promised to end coverage for immigrants without legal status, citing that benefit as an example of “wildly unsustainable” state spending. Democrat Xavier Becerra, who has spent decades trying to , has promised to protect Californians from the massive federal cuts.

Expanding Coverage

President Lyndon B. Johnson that established Medicaid and Medicare in 1965 to cover certain low-income groups, such as families with children, older people, and those with disabilities. Over the past six decades, states have substantially widened that pool, most notably under the Affordable Care Act’s Medicaid expansion to childless adults.

Starting in 2024, California offered healthcare coverage to all low-income residents, regardless of age or immigration status, although lawmakers scaled that back this year. At the same time, the state opted to cover a slew of non-mandated benefits such as physical therapy, hospice care, and housing assistance.

“California has always struggled with wanting to have as broad a program as possible but then having to figure out a way to pay,” said Jennifer Kent, who oversaw Medi-Cal under Gov. Jerry Brown, a Democrat. “There is no population that we have met that we don’t want to offer coverage to, and we’ve never met a benefit that we don’t like.”

Since 2010, California’s Medi-Cal enrollment has nearly doubled while spending has ballooned from $50 billion a year to . It now makes up more than 40% of overall state spending, according to the .

Conservatives argue the program is . They say the federal changes will force states to refocus resources on the neediest.

“The role of the safety net programs was just that — to be a safety net,” Hilton said in an interview. “I don’t think it’s a particularly positive boast to say 40% of Californians should be on a program that was designed for people living in poverty.”

Becerra declined an interview request.

Nelly, a 59-year-old from Los Angeles County, was one of millions who have benefited from the state’s Medi-Cal expansion, but she was initially reluctant to sign up.

For years after she left her corporate job to care for her ailing mother, Nelly said, she didn’t consider applying. She remained uninsured until three years ago, when she woke up and couldn’t see out of her left eye.

She enrolled in Medi-Cal in the emergency room. It now covers her appointments with specialists and transportation to and from. While her condition may exempt her from the new Medicaid work requirements, Nelly said, she’s still worried about losing coverage after experiencing numerous paperwork hiccups simply trying to renew.

Nelly, who asked that her full name not be used, because she hasn’t told her family about her condition, said she understands not everyone on the program may need it. But, she added, “it should be there for someone like me.”

Tough Choices Ahead

When Republican state lawmakers got wind of Newsom’s plan to stretch the debt repayment over a decade, they accused Democrats of trying to “paper over” the state’s structural deficit.

“This leaves future governors and legislatures to clean up the mess,” stated from GOP senators. The Legislative Analyst’s Office later called the maneuver “unusual.” That could leave Becerra, the favorite to succeed Newsom in the overwhelmingly liberal state, as the face of staggering changes to a program he spent his career defending.

More than 2 million Californians under age 65 could lose health coverage over the next four years as a result of the state and federal policy changes, according to by the University of California-Berkeley Labor Center and the UCLA Center for Health Policy Research. At least 730,000 residents have already disenrolled since June 2025.

State agencies are scrambling to implement new federal work requirement rules for adult Medicaid enrollees under 65, hoping to automate as much verification as possible to blunt coverage losses. And in 2028, states will be required to charge some enrollees fees for many services, making it harder for them to maintain coverage.

Disability rights activists say new asset limits will prevent Californians from getting needed home care, which they say is more cost-effective and humane than nursing homes. Counties, deemed by state law to be healthcare providers of last resort, say they need immediate funding for the millions of uninsured patients they anticipate in the new year.

Hospital administrators have urged policymakers to help them keep their facilities stable, and the state’s most recent budget included some $390 million to assist public and .

Martin Luther King Jr. Community Hospital in Los Angeles treats five times the patients it was designed to serve, and 80% of patients are uninsured or on Medi-Cal. Demand is so high in the chronically underserved area, MLK Community Healthcare CEO Elaine Batchlor said, that the hospital has erected tents in the parking lot. Most emergency room patients are now treated there.

“We already have an extremely overcrowded, overburdened emergency department,” Batchlor said. “Insured care will turn into uncompensated care, and the financial burden for that will fall on providers.”

Becerra has said he opposes the state’s recent freeze on enrollment for adult immigrants without legal status, as well as new monthly premiums set to take effect next year, saying such moves will only saddle taxpayers with higher bills for ER care.

If elected, Becerra will probably need to wade into the politically toxic debate over whether to raise more revenue, , or do both.

Aside from promising to find and eliminate billions in administrative waste from the industry, the nation’s former top health official has not explained how he would cobble together the tens of billions of dollars the state is likely to need just to maintain status quo.

The next governor must tread carefully, Kent warned. “When people come and say, ‘Well, you should just do this because it’s the right thing,’” she said, “all of those right things have fiscal consequences.”

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California’s Billionaire Tax Promises Healthcare Relief. The Fine Print Is Murkier. /elections/california-billionaire-wealth-tax-healthcare-cuts-competing-ballot-measures/ Wed, 14 Oct 2026 09:00:00 +0000 /?p=2287931 The pitch behind California’s is simple: Tax the richest residents in the nation’s wealthiest state to offset steep federal cuts to healthcare, food assistance, and education.

But if approved by voters in November, it’s unclear how much money the ballot initiative would raise, how quickly the funding would become available, and how lawmakers would spend it.

The measure would steer proceeds from a first-in-the-nation wealth tax to a state healthcare fund, giving the governor and lawmakers the power to decide how to spend what California’s nonpartisan legislative analyst “tens of billions of dollars.” Backers say it could raise up to $100 billion over five years to keep hospitals and emergency rooms open and preserve insurance coverage for millions of Californians. Yet, community health centers, doctors, and other healthcare entities that might benefit from such a cash infusion argue that the union spearheading the measure has readied a blank check for politicians.

“I’m not sure that you can say, with full security, that this will stop clinics from being closed or healthcare workers from being laid off, or people from losing their healthcare,” said Chris Hoene, executive director of the California Budget & Policy Center, a left-leaning nonprofit.

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Taxing the Ultrarich

Put on the ballot by one of California’s largest healthcare unions, Proposition 40 would impose a one-time 5% tax on with a net worth of at least $1 billion, including most of their stock holdings, yachts, and artwork. It would apply to those who were residents of California on Jan. 1, 2026. Real estate, pensions, and retirement accounts would generally be exempt.

The revenue raised is intended to offset the roughly in anticipated losses to the Golden State from congressional Republicans’ One Big Beautiful Bill Act. Over the next four years, state and federal funding cuts are projected to nearly double California’s uninsured population, which stands at , according to the University of California-Berkeley Labor Center.

Securing additional tax revenue is essential because state lawmakers have yet to come up with a way to pay for healthcare services that will be affected by the cuts, said Dave Regan, president of Service Employees International Union-United Healthcare Workers West, which represents hospital workers and got the wealth tax on the ballot. It would earmark 90% of the tax revenue for healthcare, while the remaining 10% would be split between food assistance and education at lawmakers’ discretion. Regan said such broad categories would give politicians flexibility to be more responsive to the looming cuts.

“Figuring out or predicting exactly what the fallout will be, of where reductions and cuts get made, in a complicated healthcare system, it’s just too difficult to predict,” Regan said.

Among the choices the next governor and lawmakers will face are whether to provide healthcare to people cut off by the new federal Medicaid work requirements, reverse state rollbacks limiting coverage for immigrants with legal status, or raise the low physician reimbursement rates that make some providers reluctant to accept patients enrolled in Medi-Cal, the state’s version of Medicaid.

Lawmakers could also shore up subsidies on Covered California, the state’s health insurance marketplace, whose enrollees have seen their premiums skyrocket after losing millions in federal assistance after Congress last year let enhanced subsides expire.

Most of the money must be spent on health, but healthcare experts said the measure’s ambiguous language could allow lawmakers to use the new billionaire health fund to replace existing state dollars, contrary to the text of the proposition.

“A lot of times these propositions are written in a way to get attention and get support,” said Glenn Melnick, a healthcare economist at the University of Southern California. “But in fact, they can be used for other things later.”

Instead, the healthcare industry is pushing for a long-term funding plan. René Bravo, a pediatrician in San Luis Obispo County and the president of the California Medical Association, worries that a one-time infusion of tax dollars “is going to run out.”

“We need to work on a more sustainable, durable funding mechanism for the Medi-Cal system,” he said.

At the same time, doctors are asking him what will happen when the biggest Medi-Cal eligibility cuts begin to take effect next year. Even if voters approve the ballot measure, the money wouldn’t be available for at least a few months while the state collects the tax. And billionaires could spread their payments over five years.

Californians Divided

Pasadena resident Lynne Wines, a 72-year-old retired banker, knows the state needs the money. But she worries that wealthy investors will see the measure as a precedent and flee the state. Even though the ballot measure is clear that it’s a one-time tax, Wines said it’s a slippery slope.

“Taxes have a way of being needed over and over, and politicians have a way of finding those needs,” Wines said. “So, I don’t really feel secure that this is just a one-time thing.”

She noted that Google co-founder and billionaire Sergey Brin bought a home in Nevada and moved some of his businesses to the Silver State late last year. He is backing ad campaigns opposing the measure. Brin has given more than $100 million to a nonprofit promoting two competing measures, Propositions 41 and 42, designed to blunt or block it, according to contributions filed with the secretary of state’s office. One would count some new state taxes toward California’s overall spending limit and require the state auditor to review new state tax proposals before voters weigh in. The other would prohibit new state taxes on personal property, intellectual property, retirement accounts, and other assets.

GOP gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton, who has been endorsed by President Donald Trump, warned on CNN in June that just the threat of the tax “has sent trillions of dollars, by some estimates, of wealth leaving the state.” A March study by the conservative Hoover Institution at Stanford University projected that the billionaire tax would , citing, in part, the lost revenue from billionaires who have already left the state.

California voters appear torn over departing billionaires. Two independent September polls suggested voter support for Proposition 40 varied from a to a .

Pasadena resident Steve Erler, 74, works full-time as a building manager because he can’t afford to retire. He worries that federal cuts will hurt children and seniors.

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Steve Erler of Pasadena, California, works full-time as a building manager because he can’t afford to retire. He worries that federal cuts will hurt children and seniors, and he supports a California ballot measure that would tax billionaires. (Jackie Fortiér/Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)

“These people who are making all this money, they can never spend it all. What are they going to do, buy another house in the Hamptons, buy another jet? They don’t need that,” Erler said while out walking his dog in August. “They need to be able to say when they go to bed at night, ‘I helped a child with healthcare. I helped a senior get fed.’ That’s what’s important,” he said.

Democrats are divided — one of many ideological fights playing out nationwide this election cycle as progressives take on more centrist candidates. U.S. Sen. (I-Vt.) and the have endorsed Proposition 40, while Gov. Gavin Newsom, who is exploring a presidential bid, and Democratic gubernatorial nominee Xavier Becerra oppose it while saying that ultrawealthy or high-earning people should pay more. “It’s time for an economic reset, a true minimum tax on billionaires that, well, ensures the people at the very top pay at least the tax rate their own workers pay,” said Newsom, who supports a , although legislation for a federal has stalled.

If voters approve the ballot measure, political analysts said, it could show other states that taxing the wealthy may help close budget gaps and pay for essential services. Already several Democratic states, including , , , and , have approved millionaire taxes, but those have been limited to income, not overall wealth. Voters in Washington state will decide this fall whether to .

“I do think this is just the beginning of these proposals nationwide,” said Melnick, the USC healthcare economist.

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Midterms Have Revived Universal Healthcare Debate. These States Are Ahead of Everyone. /elections/single-payer-universal-healthcare-debate-midterms-oregon-proposal/ Fri, 02 Oct 2026 09:00:00 +0000 /?p=2290549 Democratic congressional members and candidates are already planning to use any midterm election gains to , including boosting Affordable Care Act subsidies, reversing Medicaid cuts, and lowering the Medicare eligibility age.

But Democratic strongholds across the country — including Oregon, California, , and — have more ambitious goals: single-payer, universal healthcare systems.

No state is closer to that goal than Oregon. A panel created by the state legislature in 2023 is slated to send lawmakers its proposal for a universal health plan by Dec. 1. The nine-person seeks to establish, starting in 2032, medical, vision, dental, and mental health benefits for every state resident from cradle to grave — with no premiums, deductibles, or copayments. Lawmakers could vote on a plan during the 2027 legislative session or refer it to voters as a ballot measure in 2028.

If approved, the state would be the first in the U.S. to implement what’s called a single-payer health coverage system. It could serve as a model for other states — and potentially the nation.

Proponents of the proposal argue that the public supports universal healthcare more than ever as healthcare spending and complexity grow. patients often delay care due to out-of-pocket costs. And medical debt remains a in the nation.

States have often served as laboratories to test health policies later implemented nationally. The Affordable Care Act was modeled after Massachusetts’ attempt to achieve universal health insurance coverage, once single-payer efforts there stalled. And Canada’s universal healthcare system began with a provincial plan in Saskatchewan.

“In the short to medium term, there is no chance that ‘Medicare for All’ can be passed at the national level,” said , a University of North Carolina health policy professor. “That’s where the states come in. A state like Oregon provides a more hospitable political environment and a more realistic path to single-payer reform.”

But advocates of the plan expect a significant fight from healthcare behemoths, including large hospital systems, seeking to sour public opinion on making such widespread changes. are health insurers. The industry’s deep pockets have helped derail myriad universal healthcare efforts at the federal and state levels.

In 2011, the Vermont Legislature voted to implement a universal healthcare plan but, three years later, Democratic Gov. Peter Shumlin, who had campaigned on the promise of single-payer, pulled the plug, citing “potential economic disruption.”

States that took the issue directly to voters have fared no better. Ballot measures in in 2016, in 2002, and in 1994 all failed by large margins.

“The aspirations of progressive reformers usually run smack into sobering political realities,” Oberlander said. “Translating a slogan into a legislative and political reality is a daunting task.”

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Valdez Bravo, president of Health Care for All Oregon, speaks at the nonprofit’s annual garden party in Portland on Sept. 12. The state will soon consider a plan for universal health coverage that the state legislature ordered in 2023. (Christena Dowsett for Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)

Redirected Healthcare Dollars

Oregon’s proposal seeks to maintain the current level of spending on healthcare by government, business, and consumers with new corporate and personal taxes to replace insurance premiums and other out-of-pocket costs. Those would be combined with federal and state spending to create a single fund from which all hospitals, doctors, and other practitioners would be paid.

Board members said savings from cutting red tape, reducing fraud, and negotiating drug costs should allow the state to provide better benefits to more people.

In , the board estimated that a 30-year-old making $55,000 and purchasing a benchmark silver-level plan through the Affordable Care Act now pays $5,478 a year for insurance premiums in Oregon, but instead could pay $2,331 in taxes under the proposed plan.

Someone making $55,000 a year with coverage through their employer now pays $3,063 in premiums and out-of-pocket costs. Under the draft plan, that person could pay nothing for health services and could see any doctor in the state.

Currently, many employers pay much of the health insurance costs for their workers. The plan seeks to maintain those contributions by establishing a corporate payroll tax for companies whose payrolls exceed $500,000. Their employees could receive a partial tax credit for the taxes their employers pay. As a result, 31% to 60% of Oregonians wouldn’t pay anything for health benefits.

More affluent people, however, could end up paying more than they do now. The exact numbers would depend on how lawmakers set tax rates and payment thresholds.

“What we are proposing is something very different,” said , executive director of the Oregon board. “Everyone contributes based on the amount that they are able to contribute and not based on utilization.”

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A work group created by the state legislature in 2023 is slated to send lawmakers its proposal for a universal health plan by Dec. 1. Lawmakers could vote on the plan as soon as the next legislative session or refer it to a ballot measure in 2028. The nonprofit Health Care for All Oregon hosted a garden party on Sept. 12 ahead of the reveal. (Christena Dowsett for Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)
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Backers of the universal healthcare coverage plan will try to convince hospitals and health systems that they would benefit from reducing red tape and eliminating unpaid bills. (Christena Dowsett for Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)

Messaging Challenge Lies Ahead

The plan’s backers will try to convince hospitals and health systems that they would benefit from reducing red tape and eliminating unpaid bills. Currently, hospitals to bill dozens of public and private health plans, each with its own coverage and billing rules. A single plan covering everyone in the state could streamline the process, saving billions.

Rural hospitals could gain financial stability. They now often struggle to stay afloat because they typically have higher rates of patients who are uninsured or on Medicaid, with its often low reimbursement rates.

Hospitals aren’t so sure.

“The universal health plan proposal preserves much of the broken, fragmented status quo and adds new taxes and complexity that Oregonians can’t afford,” said Becky Hultberg, president and CEO of the . “With federal policy changes looming, we are entering a period of tremendous upheaval. This proposal could destabilize a system that is already struggling.”

Under the proposal, doctors and other practitioners would be paid somewhere between what Medicare pays on the low end and what private insurance pays on the high end. Although total payments to doctors would remain unchanged, rates would be negotiated with physician groups to shift more money into primary care and less into specialty services.

But it is unclear whether doctors would agree that more patient time, fewer administrative hurdles, and no more unpaid bills would be worth a payment structure that could cause specialists to lose out.

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Rebecca Schoon, an associate professor at Pacific University who attended last month’s Health Care for All Oregon garden party, says that communicating what universal healthcare is will be one of the biggest challenges ahead for Oregon’s proposed plan. (Christena Dowsett for Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)

“There’s always winners and losers in designing something like this, and so how to distribute those is the hardest part,” said , an associate health policy professor at Pacific University who is slated to join the Oregon board in January. “But the second-hardest part is, I think, messaging this.”

Courtni Dresser, vice president of government relations for the , said her physicians group shares many of the board’s goals in improving access to care and reducing administrative burdens. But the group has yet to declare its support or opposition to the effort.

Health insurers haven’t formally weighed in on Oregon’s proposal either, but a single-payer system would, in essence, close off Oregon to any private healthcare plans.

“We expect insurance companies to put every ounce of money they can against this idea because our system is broken and they profit from it,” said Collin Stackhouse, communications coordinator for , a consumer group advocating for universal healthcare.

, a former insurance company executive who now works to expose industry influence, said he expects health plans to hammer the Oregon proposal with claims of high taxes, loss of choice, and the specter of “socialized medicine.”

“Most people go year to year without testing the limits of their health insurance policy,” Potter said. “And so, they’re easily scared into thinking that something valuable will be taken away from them, and that they will have something that’s inferior in its place.”

Health insurers argue their health plans help shield consumers from the full impact of rising healthcare costs.

“Americans consistently report strong satisfaction with their health coverage, including more than 180 million covered through work and 36 million who choose Medicare Advantage,” said Chris Bond, a spokesperson for the health insurance . “Policy solutions are needed to rein in the ever-higher prices charged by hospitals and drugmakers and make care more affordable for everyone.”

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Volunteers converse at the Sept. 12 garden party in Portland. Oregon’s legislature created a work group in 2023 to draw up a plan to create universal healthcare in the state. The proposal is due Dec. 1. (Christena Dowsett for Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)

Federal Approval Needed

It’s unclear whether Oregon could secure federal approval to redirect Medicare and Medicaid dollars into its universal plan. Backers of the proposal do not expect the Trump administration to be receptive but say it will be years before approval is needed and hope the 2028 presidential election ushers in a more supportive administration. If federal waivers are not secured, Oregon could proceed in stages, starting with the non-Medicare population.

In California, Democratic candidates for governor are not debating whether to implement single-payer but how. New York lawmakers are debating a single-payer bill called the . And in Washington, state legislators have created a commission to design a universal healthcare plan.

The Oregon board has had regular contact with teams working on single-payer proposals in California and Washington, sharing approaches and looking for ways to collaborate, McDonell said.

, an Oregon family physician and a member of Physicians for a National Health Program, said he could envision the other West Coast states joining Oregon in implementing single-payer, much as California, Washington, and ±á²¹·É²¹¾±â€˜i have in to counter changes in federal vaccine recommendations.

“If our four states could do it,” he said, “that would be the momentum we would need to get it nationally.”

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The MAHA Metamorphosis /podcast/what-the-health-465-maha-movement-rfk-jr-trump-hhs-spending-october-1-2026/ Thu, 01 Oct 2026 18:50:00 +0000 /?p=2292271&post_type=podcast&preview_id=2292271 The Host
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The big “Make America Healthy Again” summit at a glitzy Washington, D.C., hotel this week highlighted a split in the movement between moms who want pesticides and artificial ingredients out of their kids’ food and wellness entrepreneurs who want to promote their products to government regulators.

Meanwhile, as the new fiscal year begins, the Trump administration is refusing for the second year in a row to spend hundreds of millions of dollars Congress approved for the Department of Health and Human Services — and daring lawmakers or the courts to try to do something about it.

This week’s panelists are Julie Rovner of Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News, Shefali Luthra of The 19th, Rachana Pradhan of Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News, and Rachel Roubein of The Washington Post.

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Among the takeaways from this week’s episode:

  • The transformation of the Make America Healthy Again movement was on display at a MAHA Institute meeting in Washington this week. The gathering featured wellness companies hawking their wares and largely steered clear of the movement’s core issues, such as vaccines and pesticides. Many MAHA adherents have expressed disillusionment with the Trump administration, seeing it as favoring corporate interests over their priorities, and some progressives are starting to make a play for the support of these disaffected activists.
  • The Trump administration is again attempting to cancel some congressionally appropriated health funding via a controversial strategy known as a pocket rescission. The 2026 fiscal year concluded this week, effectively running out the clock for Congress to force the Trump administration to distribute that money — and with the House already recessed until after the midterm elections.
  • And the Hyde Amendment turned 50 this week. The legislative measure prohibits federal funding from being used to pay for abortions, effectively banning Medicaid funding of pregnancy termination unless states opt to spend their own money to offer that benefit for those who are low-income or disabled.

Also this week, Rovner interviews Aaron Carroll, president and CEO of AcademyHealth, to discuss the Trump administration’s dismantling of the federal Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality.

Plus, for “extra credit” the panelists suggest health policy stories they read this week that they think you should read, too: 

Julie Rovner: The New York Times’ “,” by Madaleine Rubin.

Shefali Luthra: The Atlantic’s “,” by Caitlin Dickerson.

Rachana Pradhan: Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News’ “US Poised To Boot Legal Immigrants From Medicaid, Including Refugees and Sex-Trafficking Victims,” by Phil Galewitz, Andrew Jones, and Claudia Boyd-Barrett.

Rachel Roubein: Stat’s “” by Elaine Chen.

Also mentioned in this week’s podcast:

  • The Washington Post’s “,” by Rachel Roubein.
  • The Washington Post’s “,” by Rachel Roubein.
  • The New York Times’ “,” by Apoorva Mandavilli.
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[Editor’s note: This transcript was generated using transcription software. It has been edited for style and clarity.] 

Julie Rovner: Hello, from Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News and WAMU Public Radio in Washington, D.C. Welcome to What the Health? I’m Julie Rovner, chief Washington correspondent for Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News. And, as always, I’m joined by some of the best and smartest health reporters covering Washington. We’re taping this week on Thursday, Oct. 1, at 10 a.m. As always, news happens fast, and things might have changed by the time you hear this. So, here we go. 

Today we are joined via videoconference by Rachel Roubein of The Washington Post. 

Rachel Roubein: Hey, everybody. 

Rovner: Shefali Luthra of The 19th. 

Shefali Luthra: Hello. 

Rovner: And my Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News colleague Rachana Pradhan. 

Rachana Pradhan: Hi, Julie. 

Rovner: Later in this episode, we’ll have my interview with Dr. Aaron Carroll of AcademyHealth about the undoing of the federal Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, AHRQ, where most of the staff has been laid off or retired, and hundreds of grants have been canceled midcycle. But first, this week’s news. 

So we haven’t talked about the Make America Healthy Again movement in a while. It was a big week for MAHA here in Washington, D.C., with a gigantic summit at what used to be the Trump [International] Hotel, down the street from the White House. But it was hardly the event you’d expect if you still think of MAHA as moms who want their kids to have access to healthier food grown with fewer pesticides. Rather, this event featured representatives from health companies with business before the federal government, paying sponsorships of up to $300,000 each to sit on panels with officials from said government to talk about everything from the use of psychedelic drugs to fraud-fighting to wearables and AI [artificial intelligence]. The panel featuring Medicare and Medicaid chief Dr. [Mehmet] Oz was somewhat bizarrely moderated by comedian Russell Brand, who’s awaiting trial on sexual misconduct charges back in England. What was this event supposed to accomplish? 

Roubein: I think you kind of hit the nail on the head in terms of just thinking about the MAHA movement and sort of where it’s going next, because you had some people, more sort of MAHA activists, who were upset that it didn’t talk about some of the core issues of the MAHA base, like vaccines, like pesticides. There have been some influential MAHA activists who’ve been upset at the administration and disillusioned that it hasn’t done more to crack down on pesticide use, etc., have been upset at the Trump administration, and have been saying just weeks before the midterm elections that Republicans may lose some of these votes, and some so-called MAHA moms might sit out the elections. And I don’t think this summit did anything to persuade them to go and vote Republican in the midterms. 

Rovner: Yeah, it did seem, it seemed a great get-together if you wanted to sort of commune with the people who regulate your products, on a public stage. But both the president and Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. have felt free of late to talk about vaccines, although obviously not at this summit. But it seems that the issue that had united most of MAHA that we were just talking about, pesticides and ultraprocessed food, have been back-burnered by the White House. Rachel, you wrote a . What happened to the food agenda? 

Roubein: Pretty notably, one of the big potential parts of the food agenda is this petition that was filed by David Kessler. He’s the former head of the FDA [Food and Drug Administration] under both Republican and Democratic administrations. And his petition, essentially — I talked to food safety experts about it — could have launched a process that could have forced the industry to reformulate some ultraprocessed foods eventually. So that could have been a big deal. The status of it: It was filed August 2025, and Kennedy earlier this year had done a response to it, where he wanted to have food companies produce any detailed safety studies showing that certain ingredients common in ultraprocessed foods are generally safe. And what I had heard from talking to people is that that potential push had been slow-walked at the White House. I obtained a March draft of the letter that Kennedy sent to the White House for review. Now, HHS pushed back on the assertion that it was slow-walked, but this isn’t the first time that administration officials had wanted to and planned to announce something. They had been working on a definition of ultraprocessed foods that they wanted to release back in August, and that was delayed at the last minute, them just putting out more information about this draft definition. 

Rovner: I feel like there’s this tension between the MAHA movement, which started as a grassroots movement to crack down on corporate power, and the White House is sort of wanting to deregulate everything. Those two things seem to be kind of at loggerheads, and it looks for now like the corporations are winning. We saw this with the pesticides earlier in the year, with glyphosate, that the agricultural community fought back and said, You can’t make us stop using it, because we need it to produce food. And now it seems that the food producers are saying: You have a deregulatory agenda. Why are you talking about regulating us more? Is that, am I reading this right that the corporate power is winning, at least so far? 

Pradhan: It’s still a Republican administration, right? Regardless of Secretary Kennedy’s sort of mandate and passions, he’s still working with and for people who do not like to use government to restrict or regulate or ban things. Even, if you think about, we’ve come a long way since this point. But when former first lady Michelle Obama tried to put healthier foods in schools, she was roundly criticized for embodying a nanny state and all these things. And now, the political winds have shifted. But I still think to go up against the party’s kind of traditional views on regulating business and corporate interests, it’s a swamp. What are you going to do? They’re not going to want to regulate a lot. And like you said, Julie, there are ample actions to date that show that there isn’t necessarily a desire to impose more regulations. It’s also an election year. They may not want to antagonize corporate interests when you’re trying to not see huge losses, especially in potentially the House and maybe even the Senate. 

Rovner: Yeah, they have enough people who are mad at them. They don’t want to add to it. 

Pradhan: Exactly. 

Rovner: Well, of course, with every political split comes a new political opportunity. In Michigan, Democratic Senate nominee Abdul El-Sayed, who’s a prominent supporter of “Medicare for All,” is now trying to grab back some of those Democrats who gravitated to MAHA by unveiling something he’s calling the “Building a Healthier America” agenda, focusing on fewer pesticides, cleaner water, and healthier food. Rachel, you . Might it work? Might Democrats be able to sort of reclaim some of these people who drifted to the Republicans along with RFK Jr.? 

Roubein: I think it’s something that particularly some progressive Democrats are looking to, and they might look to do if they win back the House. In the Farm Bill, you saw Republicans and — some Republicans — and Democrats push back against giving pesticide makers immunity liability shields. But I think it remains an open question. And I think it also depends on the different groups, in terms of MAHA. Tony Lyons at MAHA Action has said that they want there to be an alliance with Republicans. But you also see this with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez trying to court some MAHA activists her way. So I think it’s an open question in terms of how this movement unfolds and whether there are any deviations towards the left. But it is a hard sell in some ways. Vaccines are a big part of a lot of people in the MAHA base. And when I asked El-Sayed about this, he said they’re, like, We’re going to agree to disagree on vaccines. 

Rovner: Yeah, he’s trained as a doctor and he does believe in vaccines. And he was the head of public health at the city of Detroit. He’s definitely not with the anti-vaccine types. But it’s important to remember that the original anti-vax movement was a combination of people from the far right and from the far left. So there have always been a lot of Democrats in the anti-vax movement, and this has been a group that’s been kind of up for grabs. And we will, I guess we’ll see how it will all shake out. 

Roubein: And some of the things on food Sen. Bernie Sanders has said for a long time, too. So there has always sort of been some of that intersection on certain issues. 

Rovner: Yeah. Well, originally RFK Jr. was running as a Democrat before he took up with the Trump team. All right. Moving on. Today is Oct. 1, the start of the fiscal year. Happy FY 2027, everyone. The Trump administration marked the day a little early, informing Congress last Friday that it was declining to spend more than $800 billion, in what’s called a pocket rescission. That’s when an administration declines to spend money appropriated by Congress so close to the end of the fiscal year that it basically can’t be spent at all and Congress doesn’t have time to disapprove it. The majority of this funding is from HHS, largely for programs to help noncitizens and for what the administration calls, quote, “overfunded and unaligned” HHS research programs. That includes many related to minority health. Congressional spending leaders, including Senate Appropriations Chair Susan Collins of Maine, complained that pocket rescissions are illegal under a law called the Impoundment Control Act, and the Government Accountability Office issued an opinion this week backing that claim up. But, as we know, this administration likes to dare courts to stop it from doing things that just about everybody else acknowledges is illegal. And I guess that’s where we are here? 

Luthra: No, I was just thinking, right? It’s October. Everything that happens now, we also think about in the context of an election, and I think a dynamic that we have talked about a lot is this effort by the administration to just sort of do what it would like to do with funding, even when many people might say that is not how the laws and separation of powers are supposed to work. And I think something really interesting for us to consider is whether those dynamics do, in fact, change in the new year. Given what Rachana mentioned earlier, there is a very good chance that Democrats control both chambers of Congress, not just one. And [does] that possibility of conflict with another branch in Washington change what behavior we see from the White House? I think that’s a really interesting question and something that we should be thinking about as the election gets closer, and then again depending on what the results end up being. 

Rovner: Yeah, one of the really weedy issues here is who gets to sue the administration to say that, Hey, you’re not allowed to not spend money that we’ve appropriated. It was important that they came out and said that this was illegal, because the GAO, under the law, has standing to sue. But they don’t have a confirmed leader at this point, and Susan Collins was asked about this and said they may be a little bit wary to kind of get out in front of Congress. But I think it’s probably fair to say that if Democrats take back the House and Senate, that they would be more likely to want to either — I think that the Congress itself can sue the administration, can go to court and say, Hey, you can’t do this, which obviously the Republican Congress hasn’t wanted to do. But a Democratic Congress might. 

Pradhan: What — has GAO ever been known to sue? 

Rovner: That’s a good question. I can’t remember. We’ve had fights about rescissions before. 

Pradhan: Yeah. 

Rovner: But it’s — Russell Vought, the head of the White House Office of Management and Budget, says publicly that he thinks that the Impoundment Control Act is unconstitutional and therefore they don’t have to obey it. That’s clearly something for a court to determine. That’s clearly something for the Supreme Court to determine. We haven’t gotten there yet, but most of the time, I think, we’ve had lower courts that have warned the administration: Um, hey, there’s this law that says you can’t do that. You have to spend money the way Congress says you should spend money. The last time we had a pocket rescission, I looked it up, was last year when this administration did the same thing. That was the USAID [U.S. Agency for International Development] money. So before that, I’m not sure when. I may go back and have a look. Shefali, to your point, that was my next question anyway. It’s like, I would think that the one thing that is likely to change if the Democrats take Congress — obviously, we have two more years of the Trump administration — but I would think they would be a lot more zealous in guarding their spending power than this Congress has been. 

Luthra: One would imagine. It seems hard to abdicate the power that one might want. That’s how separation of powers, in theory, is supposed to work. 

Rovner: And it is kind of written into the Constitution. 

Pradhan: I do wonder, though, if they think that, if they wouldn’t get a good, friendly decision from a court … 

Rovner: The Supreme Court. Yeah. 

Pradhan: Yeah. That could be far more damaging in the long term, right? 

Rovner: Yes. There is the concern that the Supreme Court would agree with Russell Vought that the Impoundment Control Act … 

Pradhan: Right. 

Rovner: … is unconstitutional. That is a risk that they would run. 

Pradhan: Right. 

Rovner: Well, that will happen. We will see what happens with that. All right. So, obviously these latest cuts aren’t the only ones to HHS that have been made since [President Donald] Trump returned to office in 2025. We will talk more about what’s happened at the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality in this week’s interview, but I want to talk a little bit right now about the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, whose workforce we now know is down by almost a third, according to . Quote: “The changes have hindered the C.D.C.’s ability to respond to outbreaks as measles spreads at home and Ebola abroad,” while, quote, “entire divisions have been shuttered, including teams that worked on smoking, sexual violence, child abuse and falls among older adults.” Separately, but not really separately, the CDC’s advisory committee on vaccine practices has ground to a halt after a judge struck down Kennedy’s replacement members as unqualified. Medical societies have stepped in with their own vaccine recommendations for this fall, but the official CDC guidance is already out of date because there’s no ACIP [Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices] to make recommendations. This is all going to come home to roost the next time we have a bad flu season, I imagine. 

Pradhan: Yeah, I think that the Times, the New York Times, story, what I thought was really, kind of what they led with, was that even though last year you had these widespread firings across HHS and different agencies, including the CDC — the CDC at that time we know lost about 1 in 5 workers — but really the true scale of the losses is much higher. It’s about 30% fewer employees. But the CDC has really had a rough go of it. I think it probably was the — it was the poster child for everything that went wrong during the pandemic, in Republicans’ view. And so they’ve been very keen on dismantling a lot of that agency, more so than the FDA and more so than the NIH [National Institutes of Health], for example, even though they’ve also seen a lot of staff reductions. But CDC, I think, has been so crippled for so long, both because of the staff reductions and just the awful morale at the agency because of everything that the current political leadership has done since. Yeah. 

Rovner: I would say, and the politicization of its leadership, things that were long run by career scientists in Democratic and Republican administrations that are now being run by political appointees, who are rather pointedly not scientists … 

Pradhan: Yeah. 

Rovner: … running this very scientifically driven agency. And of course we’ve had a fifth measles death in Pennsylvania now, that apparently the CDC is still not acknowledging the measles deaths in Pennsylvania. So there are still a lot of questions. The CDC does have, unlike several of the other HHS agencies, does have a Senate-confirmed leader. But so far, we haven’t heard very much from her. I guess we are all still sort of waiting to see what happens, but in the meantime, I can just imagine if we have a bad flu season or some other respiratory ailment that could have been prevented if CDC had been up to date with its vaccine recommendations, things could get rather loud and nasty later this winter. 

Roubein: Some of the vaccine recommendations, some of this is very much tied into the lawsuit, just like the high-level ACIP not putting more vaccine recommendations out. And this part has had somewhat of a snowball effect, like the Vaccines for Children Program, giving out free vaccines to uninsured, underinsured kids, that was held up for about a month. That is now going through, but they had to kind of work through: What are the recommendations going to be? And they ended up going with prior recommendations because there is not an ACIP to meet. So some of this has been tied up in legal limbo. And yeah, on the measles deaths, CDC is now acknowledging two out of the five that Pennsylvania has reported. 

Rovner: There we go. We’re finally hearing something. All right, we’re going to take a quick break. We will be right back. 

Turning to reproductive health, the Hyde Amendment — that’s the annual appropriations rider that bars federal funding for abortion in most cases — turns 50 this week, which, as one abortion rights group pointed out, means that the ban itself has now been in effect longer than Roe v. Wade was in force. Shefali, what’s been the impact of the Hyde Amendment on the ground? What does it actually mean for people who are seeking reproductive care? 

Luthra: It’s a bit more complicated than I think people might initially realize. The Hyde Amendment prohibits the use of federal funds to pay for abortion — functionally, Medicaid. And so Medicaid programs are jointly funded by state governments and federal governments. If you are in a state where the state government does not want to put money into paying for Medicaid coverage of abortion, your abortion will not be covered, especially if you are low-income. Most people who get abortions are people who cannot afford another child. They are parents already. They are largely people who are low-income and rely on something like Medicaid. However, there are states, the Californias, etc., of the world, that have made a point of putting state funds into their Medicaid programs. So in some states, you can get Medicaid to cover your abortion. That’s really helpful. It makes this procedure much more affordable. It can cost hundreds of dollars, sometimes a lot more, depending on where you are in your pregnancy, to get an abortion. But, of course, the fact that this has existed for so long has absolutely made it harder for people, often those who are most financially vulnerable, to get abortions. What you often hear from those patients, though, when I speak to them, is, like, This is something I really can’t afford right now, but I will pay for it anyway because I really can’t afford another child. I think the Hyde Amendment is really striking in that it makes this thing much harder to get. But for a lot of people, it doesn’t necessarily stop them from getting it, because it is just so important to them. 

Rovner: It’s ironic that something that has to, literally Congress has to pass every year — it is a rider on a spending bill. Democrats have tried various ways to get rid of it, always failed. Even when we had a Congress that supported abortion rights, they could not get this out. It is just sort of part of the landscape now, isn’t it? 

Luthra: And part of it is, I think, demonstrative of one of the more effective anti-abortion lines a lot of Republicans have. Abortion public opinion is very complicated. And people support abortion rights in the abstract, but when you get into more specifics, their views become more complicated. And one framing a lot of the GOP has really found success with is saying, We don’t support taxpayer funding of abortion. And that really works because people will hear that and they say: Oh, well, that sounds very extreme. I support this for other people, but, like, my tax dollars, they can’t fund that. And that is the line that has been used to keep Medicaid from paying for abortions, to keep the Hyde Amendment intact, and to keep other federal programs as well from making this more available. And I think it’s perhaps more politically complicated than first blush at abortion polling data might suggest to undo something like this, 

Rovner: I absolutely agree. Well, still, anti-abortion forces remain intent on cutting off the main remaining source of access to abortion, the abortion pill mifepristone. This week, the attorneys general of Louisiana, Alabama, and Arkansas filed suit in federal district court — not at the Supreme Court, which the group’s press release says — to strike down the shield laws in New York, Massachusetts, and California. Those are the laws that enable doctors in those states to provide telehealth appointments to people in ban states seeking to terminate their pregnancies. Shefali, there’s already a lawsuit on mifepristone making its way through the courts, and it’s from Louisiana. How is this one different? 

Luthra: This one is different because it specifically goes after shield laws and it challenges their constitutionality. That is a different argument. It is more sweeping. It could be the thing that finally gets the Supreme Court to weigh in on this issue. Right? It’s a very, very big legal question, something that constitutional scholars have believed, since the enactment of shield laws will ultimately be settled by the Supreme Court. However, I think it’s really important for us to take this suit with context. As you mentioned, there are so many cases making their way through the courts right now around how people get abortions, the provision of mifepristone, shield laws, etc., etc. We don’t know which one will end up at the Supreme Court. We don’t know how courts will rule. This is just one more quiver in the bow that abortion opponents are trying to use to stop this telehealth model that has found quite a bit of success. We will see which one lands. It very well could be this one, but, at this point, we just don’t know. 

Rovner: Yeah, and I should point out that the other Louisiana case is about FDA and its approval of mifepristone to be prescribed via telehealth. So, and of course, we’re also waiting for the administration to do, to finish its FDA safety review, which we expect to see sometime after the election. Speaking of which, abortion is not quite the high-profile electoral issue this year that it was in 2024, but there’s still several abortion-related ballot initiatives to be voted on this year. Shefali, any that you’re watching particularly closely? Or any of the others of you? 

Luthra: I am personally very interested in the Idaho measure and the Missouri one. I spent a bit of time in both of those states learning about what’s happening there over the past month. I think it’s really fascinating. In Missouri, it’s a very strange case. Two years ago, voters amended their constitution and said, We will protect abortion rights. Abortion is now legal in Missouri, a state run by very, very anti-abortion lawmakers. Those same lawmakers were horrified by this finding, and so they have put forth a new ballot measure that would overturn the 2024 result, and it would amend the state constitution to ban abortion. And if that passes, Missouri’s constitution would be the only state constitution to explicitly ban abortion. That’s a really big deal. If this passes, it could set an example to other states where voters have said, We support abortion rights and lawmakers have felt very frustrated by that. Polling right now is a very even split. There is a lot of money. We will see what happens. But I think this is a really interesting case for us to be following. 

Rovner: And it’s super confusing because they just voted on this. 

Luthra: It’s so confusing. And it’s called Amendment 3. If you look at two years ago, the abortion rights measure was also called Amendment 3, and so you might be like: Well, I just voted on Amendment 3. I voted for it. I should vote for it again. And in fact, that would be the opposite. And I’ve spoken to people … 

Pradhan: That’s very confusing. That’s very confusing. How are people supposed to keep up with all this? I can barely keep up with it. 

Luthra: How are they supposed to keep up with all of it? That’s such a good question. 

Pradhan: It’s a lot. 

Luthra: But no, and I’ve spoken to people who work in politics in the area, and they had no idea this was even on the ballot. And I was like, That’s also really striking that abortion has faded from a lot of the political consciousness. But actually there’s this measure that could have really sweeping consequences and really inspire similar action in other states. And the Idaho measure, I think, also very interesting. That would actually not amend the constitution. It would just pass a law that would overturn Idaho’s very, very strict abortion ban, which has sparked all these headlines — women being airlifted to Utah for medical emergencies, doctors leaving, labor and delivery wards shutting down because the law is so strict there. It’s really an open question, but there is some polling that suggests that this could pass. They have gotten a lot of support from Democrats, but also independents, also Republicans. A lot of people in Idaho who were never really politically engaged very deeply are, because this abortion ban has been so sweeping, affected so many of them so personally. If it passes, the legislature could vote to overturn it, and we’ve seen that happen in states around the country. But I think we don’t know, A) if it will pass and, B) if it did how lawmakers might react. There’s a real chance — right? — that they are just so surprised that this happens that maybe you do reconsider the politics of instituting an abortion ban when voters rejected one. But absolutely worth following and seeing what happens in this case, for political reasons but also because a lot of people’s lives could be really, really fundamentally changed as a result of it. 

Roubein: Missouri sounds like such an interesting test case, because I remember back in 2022, after the Supreme Court decision, abortion rights groups were really grasping for a strategy, so they were throwing a bunch of different things at the wall, lawsuits, and then they tried the ballot measures, and it just seemed to work and take off steam. So that’s pretty interesting. 

Rovner: Yeah, and of course, as you pointed out, Missouri has some of the most strident anti-abortion lawmakers in Congress. Josh Hawley, the senator whose wife is one of the lawyers for the anti-abortion, for the main anti-abortion legal group. So Missouri is one of those states that’s got all of the poles represented, and we will have to see how that all comes out. 

Pradhan: Can I make one last addendum on the abortion thing, which is because I’m a Virginia resident? Actually, I was talking to my husband the other day. I said, “Oh, this is how you know that Democrats are in charge,” or we have a relatively new Democratic governor. So now there’s a proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot to amend the state constitution to codify abortion being legal until 28 weeks, so basically through the first two trimesters. Which, you know, Virginia is interesting. I’m biased because I live here, but it’s, of course, trended blue with many prior elections, like leading up to now. But parts of the state are very, very conservative. 

Rovner: Yeah, Virginia is still the South in a lot of ways. 

Pradhan: Yeah. Oh, yeah. And it doesn’t take you long to figure that out once you leave the D.C. area, and there’s a lot of religious-based opposition to abortion. So I’m not sure how it’ll do, whether people will support it or not. 

Rovner: I’m curious whether — if we really are looking at a blue wave, and we certainly see a lot of Democrats in unlikely states who seem to have at least a chance of getting elected because of the frustration, mostly with the economy — whether that will bring along some of these other issues in a way that it might not have. Because, as we say all the time, midterms are about turnout, and it looks like the motivated voters this time are bluer than redder. But I guess that’s another thing that we will have to wait and see. 

All right, that is this week’s news. Now we’ll play my interview with Aaron Carroll of AcademyHealth, and then we will come back and do our extra credits.  

I am pleased to welcome back to the podcast Dr. Aaron Carroll, president and CEO of AcademyHealth, which supports the health services research community. Aaron Carroll, thank you so much for being here. 

Aaron Carroll: Always a pleasure. 

Rovner: So I’ve asked you here to talk about the Trump administration’s effective dismantling of the Agency for Healthcare Quality and Research, which even many of our very nerdy listeners might not have heard of. But first, tell us what health services research is and how it differs from the biomedical research that most people are more familiar with. 

Carroll: I think everybody really gets what we might call discovery research, which is about learning new things at a cellular, molecular, you know, body level — the creation of drugs, the creation of new procedures. You know, everybody sort of understands why we need to do that. But that’s only part of the problem. The bigger problem is how do we actually get that to where people are? So health services research focuses on: How do we improve the access, the quality, and the cost of a healthcare system? Another way I like to think about it is that everything that people hate about healthcare is what health services research focuses on. It costs too much? Yeah, that’s health services research. You can’t get in to see the clinician you want? Wait times are too long? That’s health services research. You feel like you’re not getting the quality that you should, or you’re worried that you know chronic diseases on …? That’s health services research. We spend very little time and very little money, unfortunately, on that type of research. But it’s just as important as discovery research, and I think that one of the reasons why we continue to be so dissatisfied with the healthcare system is because we’re not committed to studying and improving those things in the same way we are discovery. 

Rovner: So how does AHRQ facilitate that, or how has AHRQ facilitated that? 

Carroll: Sure. So, I mean, some of it is by creating and maintaining some of the big databases that people use to study the healthcare system, things like MEPS or other related databases. 

Rovner: MEPS is the Medical Expenditures … 

Carroll: Medical Expenditure Panel Survey. Yes, but I think the bigger way is that they give out independent investigator grants the same way that the NIH does. It just focuses more on health services research, and sometimes they have, you know, different areas that they choose to focus on, depending on the administration, because every administration should get to set priorities or, you know, decide what they think are most important. But they usually give out lots of grants, and I’ve had some over my career, that allow you to do all kinds of research to try to examine how you might improve the way that people receive care or pay for care or get care. 

Rovner: And some of that research has actually created improvements in the healthcare system, is that fair to say?  

Carroll: Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, the reason that, like, we landed on, say, $35 for insulin is because of health services research. It’s because of research that was done that found that that was sort of the inflection point. That when out-of-pocket costs got above that amount, people stopped taking their insulin as they should. And I understand the need for some copays — and obviously, we have a healthcare system. … But it’s, like, finding that kind of stuff out is health services research. And, you know, even some of the grants that were canceled this year would make sense to any, everyday Americans. Like, how do we improve the way that hospitals use antibiotics so we get less resistance, or how do we improve care using telehealth so that kids can get better asthma care or autism diagnoses? These are not discoveries in the sense of new medications, but they are things that we need to learn how to do to make the healthcare system work for everyone. 

Rovner: So I actually covered the creation of not just AHRQ, but of its predecessor agency, the Agency for Health Care Policy and Research, way back in 1989, when I was a baby healthcare reporter. It was not just a bipartisan agency. Its creation was spearheaded by Republicans who wanted to know, basically, which medical interventions worked and whether the U.S. was getting its money’s worth on medical procedures. The reinvention of the agency 10 years later was led by Sen. Bill Frist, a Republican former transplant surgeon who later served as the Senate’s majority leader. So, how did the Trump administration come to view this agency as so “woke” that it basically needed to be disassembled? 

Carroll: I don’t know. And again, if you don’t like the research priorities, it is perfectly reasonable for an administration to say, Let’s change them. And if they decided they wanted to focus on cost, OK. If they decided they wanted to focus on access, OK. There’s so many different ways to do this, but what they’ve done instead is apparently cancel a ton of grants that were already ongoing — and I’d be happy to talk about more specifics about that — but also they just are not spending the money. In fiscal year 2025, there was a significant amount of money that wasn’t spent. Many believe that’s an illegal impoundment, and there’s a case working its way through the courts right now, led by the Society for General Internal Medicine and Public Citizen, and they actually folded in some of the cancellation grants. But in fiscal year 2026, almost no money has been given out for new grants. Today, as we’re taping this, it is the last day of the fiscal year. I have no idea how possibly they’re going to spend the $345 million that was appropriated in 2026. A lot of that is not going to go out the door. In answer to that, they have said that 97% is being on track to be spent. I don’t know how that’s possible. And it’s very, very likely, again, we’re going to see a ton of money unspent, and I imagine lawsuits and more yelling will follow. 

Rovner: So, Congress appropriated this money. The president signed the appropriations bill. What can Congress do, and why isn’t Congress doing something? 

Carroll: So I ask those same questions every day. I don’t understand how Congress is not out of its mind. I mean, this is not something, again, from the “woke” Biden administration. This is this Congress, this House, this Senate passed a budget in a bipartisan manner, that was then signed by the president of the United States — this president — into law. The money’s been appropriated. … In fact, there was specific language in the budget that required HHS to staff up to make sure that they could spend this money. They have not staffed up. They have not spent the money. I don’t know how Congress is not losing their minds. It is an absolute ignoring the law. It is absolutely ignoring Congress’ will. I know there’s a GAO investigation. I know questions have been asked, and I don’t think answers have been given. It makes no sense whatsoever. I don’t know, again, why Congress isn’t screaming and yelling and taking action. Now, what action should they take? Hearings, oversight, make sure that all of this happens. Haul people in to session and find out why are they not following the law, and force the executive branch, as the legislative branch should do, as an equal part of our government, to follow the law. 

Rovner: And it’s not just the grants. I mean, most of the staff has now been basically terminated. 

Carroll: Yeah. Well, that’s what I mean. And there are now minimum staffing requirements in the law, and those are not being followed. I mean, depending upon whose estimates you believe, somewhere between 75% and 90% of AHRQ staff have either been let go or have left the organization. We can’t get exact numbers because they won’t release them. But there aren’t enough people even to process or put the money out the door. Even if they decided today we’ve got to get all the money, it’s not possible. There just aren’t people there to fill out the forms, check the budgets, do all the due diligence, administer the grants, oversee it. There’s no one there, and it’s an absolute abdication of their responsibility to enact the budget and the law as Congress has appropriated and put forth. 

Rovner: Last question: What would it mean — I mean, what would the loss, basically, of what AHRQ has been doing for these last 26 years mean — to the healthcare system and how it runs? 

Carroll: I mean, we spend $40-some billion a year on the NIH — I think about $47 billion. AHRQ, again, is $345 million. So we have been massively underspending on sort of what I would call “delivery” research on how the healthcare system works. And it’s one of the reasons why Americans are getting angrier and angrier every year because they’re, like, Why won’t things get better? Well, we’re not funding it enough. We’re not doing enough. And then, what little we were doing, they canceled in July and refused to spend now. So, what’ll happen? We will remain just as angry, if not angrier, about how much we’re paying for healthcare. We will remain just as angry, if not angrier, about how we can’t get what we need, and we’ll remain just as angry, if not angrier, about the fact that we can spend all this money that we do, $5 trillion-plus, and still feel like we’re not getting the quality, and continue to complain about how unhealthy we all are. AHRQ is the solution to a lot of these problems, and, for some reason, we just won’t use it. 

Rovner: Aaron Carroll, we will stay on top of this. We will revisit it. I promise. 

Carroll: I’m glad to hear that. 

Rovner: Thank you. 

Carroll: Thank you. 

Rovner: OK, we’re back. Now it’s time for our extra-credit segment. That’s where we each recognize a story we read this week we think you should read, too. Don’t worry if you miss it. We will post the links in our show notes on your phone or other mobile device. Rachel, why don’t you go first this week? 

Roubein: My extra credit is headlined “” It was in Stat by Elaine Chen. I thought it was a really fascinating story because we’ve all seen the cultural shift toward GLP-1s, and we’ve all heard the drugs praised as a way to address obesity as a medical issue. But Elaine reports that the drugs are now being increasingly marketed as a way to look and feel better. I thought there were some notable examples. The story explored how Novo Nordisk, which is one of the drugs’ makers, has particularly leaned into the shift. For instance, the company had advertisements this summer with slogans that include “live lighter” and “a summer glow-up.” And instead of labeling the drug as a drug for weight management, it sometimes is referring to it as a weight loss drug. And Elaine talked to some doctors and patient advocates that think the drug’s being talked about more as a retail product, run against the industry’s sort of initial goals of trying to convince the greater public that obesity is a disease and that the drug should be covered by insurance. For Novo Nordisk’s part, a spokeswoman told Elaine that how people expect to access and experience care has changed in recent years, and the company recognizes that healthcare needs to become more responsive, relevant, and easier to fit into everyday life. 

Rovner: I would just note, and it’s a very good story, that if the drugmakers lowered the price of the drugs, it would be easier to get it covered by insurance. But that’s just an aside. Shefali. 

Luthra: My story is from The Atlantic by Caitlin Dickerson. The headline is “.” It’s a great story. It is about when parents are deported without their children, what happens to those children? This is the kind of reporting that is really hard to do because you have to spend time with children who have lost their parents. But I think it’s really important, especially as we see this uptick in detaining and deporting, in particular, people with children. I’ve spoken to a lot of mothers who have been deported when they had children here, and the consequences will last probably people’s whole lives. There are health consequences, especially when you have young children. There is PTSD, and I think Caitlin Dickerson has done some of the best reporting on immigration in the past decade, maybe longer. And this is absolutely an essential addition to that canon. 

Rovner: It is indeed. Rachana. 

Pradhan: My story is a trifecta from my colleagues Phil Galewitz, Andrew Jones, and Claudia Boyd-Barrett, who wrote a story about, as of today, hundreds of thousands likely of immigrants who are lawfully present in the United States but who have low incomes are now no longer eligible for Medicaid. This is part of President Trump’s signature One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which will enact greater coverage reductions next year, starting in 2027. But this group of people is now no longer eligible for Medicaid. It includes refugees, some people who have been granted asylum, and also, you know, victims of domestic violence and/or human trafficking. So the story gets into how we have our beloved Congressional Budget Office here in Washington that sort of estimates the impacts of tons of legislation. And they estimated previously that about 100,000 immigrants would be uninsured by 2034 because of this provision. But based on figures that my three colleagues got from state governments or state Medicaid agencies, the figure is likely to be higher of the numbers of immigrants with legal status who are going to now not be able to receive Medicaid. So yeah. So it’s a great read, and I know Julie will put the link in the podcast and in the comments. 

Rovner: I will indeed. Yes, there’s the continuing, you know, “immigration is a health issue, too” theme that we have this week. All right, my extra credit is actually an update to an extra credit from last month. Like last month’s story, it’s from The New York Times, and it’s called “,” by Madaleine Rubin. And it seems that my alma mater — also, full disclosure, the alma mater of my editor and several of our panelists — has rethought the idea of letting incoming freshmen complete their first semester without letter grades to ease them into college life. According to a statement from interim university president Domenico Grasso, there was concern that students would be, quote, “unfairly portrayed as coddled or unprepared for the demands of a rigorous Michigan education.” Yeah, I would add that a lot of the backlash came from my fellow alums, and that even though I attended Michigan well back in the 20th century, even in the olden days, we had the option to take classes pass/fail if we wanted to. Although I would note that under the original proposal here, the students wouldn’t have failed, but they would either have gotten a pass or a “no credit.” Good job rethinking this, guys, and Go Blue. 

OK, that is this week’s show. Thanks to our editor, Emmarie Huetteman, and our producer-engineer, Francis Ying. A reminder: What the Health? is now available on WAMU platforms, the NPR app, and wherever you get your podcasts — as well as, of course, kffhealthnews.org. Also, as always, you can email us your comments or questions. We’re at whatthehealth@kff.org. Or you can still find me on X , or on Bluesky . Where are you guys hanging about these days? Shefali. 

Luthra: I guess I’m on Bluesky , but you can also email me. 

Rovner: There you go. Rachana. 

Pradhan: @rachanadpradhan, both on and on , and you can always email me at RachanaP@kff.org. 

Rovner: Rachel. 

Roubein: Yes. X: ; Bluesky: ; and Signal is always good too: RachelRoubein.28. 

Rovner: Great. Thank you all. We will be back in your feed next week. Until then, be healthy. 

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Rural MAHA Followers Say Trump Health Policies Haven’t Reached Their Communities /rural-health/kff-ap-poll-rural-voters-maha-make-america-healthy-again-local-impact-midterms/ Wed, 30 Sep 2026 10:01:00 +0000 /?p=2290225

About half of rural voters identify with , a sprawling political movement championed by the Trump administration, but most said President Donald Trump’s healthcare policies have not benefited their communities, according to a from The Associated Press in partnership with KFF.

About 8 in 10 rural voters — an important voting bloc for Trump and fellow Republicans in recent elections — said the Trump administration’s policies have had a negative effect or no impact on the health of people where they live. Most MAHA supporters, 68%, also feel this way, according to the national survey of more than 2,000 rural registered voters.

The findings signal an apparent disconnect between the Trump administration’s MAHA-branded policy priorities and rural America’s perception of their reach and effectiveness.

Iowa pastor Mike Jager, 58, is a registered Republican and considers himself part of the MAHA movement. The Trump administration’s health policies have had “minimal” impact on the health of his community, Jager said, but he added that Trump’s health secretary, , is moving the needle “in the right direction.”

“It’s a beginning,” Jager said. “It’s a big ship to try and turn around and course-correct.”

Kennedy has used the MAHA label to support various agendas, including , , and investing in regenerative agriculture.

Jager lives in Sumner, Iowa, “less than a quarter mile from where the corn ends and the city begins.” He’s seen family members and neighbors develop diseases that he believes resulted in part from exposure to agricultural chemicals and consumption of unhealthy, processed foods.

In the June Republican primary for governor, Jager voted for Zach Lahn, a businessman and farmer, who ran on a MAHA platform and beat out Trump-backed U.S. Rep. Randy Feenstra. He plans to vote for him again in November.

A photo of Mike Jager standing in front of an altar inside of a church.
Jager said that President Donald Trump’s health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., is moving the needle “in the right direction.” (Miriam Alarcón Avila for Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)

Many Rural Voters Are Prioritizing Health Issues

About two-thirds of rural voters who support MAHA said it’s “extremely” or “very” important to them to vote for a candidate who does, too, while only 4 in 10 rural voters overall said the same.

Trump sought to seize on MAHA support during his campaign for another term two years ago. Now, amid tight midterm races, Kennedy has campaigned to galvanize the movement’s support. In May, he attended a MAHA bill signing with Iowa Republican Gov. Kim Reynolds, and in August, he went fishing with Lahn, posting about it on social media.

Yet the survey indicates voters are noticing “this weird split in the Trump administration” between what Kennedy messages and what Trump says and does, said David Peterson, a political science professor at Iowa State University.

“It’s this mix of things coming out of D.C., out of different pieces of the administration, that’s confusing people,” Peterson said.

In Iowa, concerns about what’s causing are “a big deal,” he said. For many people who identify with MAHA, being healthy includes taking on corporate agriculture and pharmaceutical companies that they think cause cancer, he added.

“The sort of populist messaging around that is appealing right now,” Peterson said.

In the poll, views on healthcare access and costs largely diverged along party lines. Most Democratic and independent voters said the Trump administration’s healthcare policies have had a negative impact on their healthcare costs and the health and well-being of people in their communities. Republicans were likelier to say there hasn’t been an impact.

Talking on the phone from her 200-acre farm in Carroll County, Iowa, 71-year-old Donna Klocke said that her husband had died from cancer and that she has neighbors who also have cancer.

“It’s just very prevalent,” Klocke said. “We’re in a farming community. We use chemicals and pesticides and all kinds of things that aren’t necessarily good for us.”

Klocke, a Democrat, said the MAHA movement is a good idea because she cares about being healthy, but she does not consider herself part of it and will not be voting for a candidate who represents the movement.

Kennedy, who was an anti-vaccine activist before entering politics and has sent to Americans about , scares her.

“Measles are coming back and polio,” Klocke said. “It’s the measles that really gets me. It’s like, do you not understand how dangerous it is?”

A photo of Donna Klocke standing in front of a cornfield in Iowa.
Donna Klocke cares about being healthy but does not consider herself part of the Make America Healthy Again movement. Her husband died from cancer after a life spent farming the family’s 200 acres in Carroll County, Iowa. (Kathyrn Gamble for Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News)

Survey Reflects Angst Over Healthcare

About half of rural voters said their communities don’t have enough doctors or other healthcare providers, and even more said there aren’t enough mental health workers specifically. The share of rural voters who said their community does not have enough hospitals increased to 35% from 21% in a similar question asked in a KFF-Washington Post survey in 2017.

And as with the general population, healthcare, gas, and grocery costs are top pain points. More than 6 in 10 rural voters said they were worried about healthcare costs.

The level of worry varied based on coverage, with rural voters enrolled in employer plans or Medicare less likely to be worried. The survey found that 80% of working-age rural voters on Medicaid were very or somewhat worried about healthcare costs. Last year, Republicans passed that cut over $900 billion in projected Medicaid spending over a decade and mandated new eligibility requirements.

Among rural voters who purchase their own insurance, such as the individual coverage plans available on Affordable Care Act marketplaces, 77% said they were worried.

In the tiny community of Lipan, Texas, west of Dallas, Kim Solis and her husband have a handyman-and-home-remodel business and get their insurance on the marketplace. Since Trump was elected again, their premium payment jumped from zero to $166 a month. Their copays went up, and their deductibles each increased by $2,000.

Solis, 62, said she worries what will happen if they get a big medical bill.

“Certainly, we’d be in a world of hurt trying to take money out of savings or getting it out of our 401(k) just to be able to do something about it,” she said.

Most MAHA Voters Are Also MAGA — But Not All

Like the general population, rural voters said they trust their own doctors and healthcare providers for health information over government agencies or officials, according to the poll.

Trust in Kennedy and Trump fell largely along partisan lines. About 10% of rural Democratic voters reported having a “great deal” or “fair amount” of trust in Kennedy, compared with 74% of rural Republican voters. About 5% of rural Democrats and 69% of rural Republicans said they trust Trump a “great deal” or “fair amount” for reliable health information.

While Make America Great Again and MAHA identities are “linked in a lot of ways,” the rising costs of healthcare and groceries pose a challenge for those committed to the MAHA principles that Kennedy promotes, said Peterson, the Iowa State professor.

Buying healthy food “becomes, ‘I can’t afford to do that because of Trump’s policies,’” he said.

In Stamping Ground, Kentucky, Alma Johnson, 65, works as night security at a horse farm. Johnson said gas had gone up but her overall cost of living had decreased since Trump took office.

Johnson voted for Trump in 2016, 2020, and 2024 and said she “pretty much” likes how Trump is running the country. But she said she is not a MAGA devotee, preferring to “think for myself.”

MAHA, however, is an easy sell for Johnson because, she said, she doesn’t think people should be able to buy junk food through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP.

Still, she said she hasn’t seen much impact from the Trump administration’s healthcare policies, including the .

“It takes a long time to change people, their habits, their thoughts, or the things they do,” Johnson said.

About the Poll

The KFF-AP Rural Voters Survey was conducted online and by telephone Aug. 12-24, 2026, among 2,241 registered voters living in rural areas, defined as census tracts that fall within codes 5-10 of the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s 2020 Rural-Urban Commuting Area codes. Voters were reached through a combination of the probability-based SSRS Opinion Panel and a registration-based sample from the L2 voter file. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points, including design effects due to weighting. Error margins are larger for subgroups. In collaboration with the AP, KFF researchers worked to design the survey sample and questionnaire and analyze and report findings.

This report is from a collaboration between Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News and The Associated Press.

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US Poised To Boot Legal Immigrants From Medicaid, Including Refugees and Sex-Trafficking Victims /medicaid/immigrants-kicked-off-medicaid-refugees-asylum-seekers-trump-big-beautiful-bill-cbo-2/ Wed, 30 Sep 2026 09:00:00 +0000 /?p=2291547 Hundreds of thousands of immigrants with legal status are at risk of losing government health coverage starting Oct. 1, state data shows, signaling that the impact of Medicaid changes in President Donald Trump’s signature legislation from 2025 may be greater than anticipated.

Many lawfully present immigrants will be among the first people to lose Medicaid coverage under congressional Republicans’ One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which is expected to cut spending by more than $900 billion through 2034 for the state-federal health program for people with low incomes or disabilities. The law will strip many more immigrants of their Affordable Care Act plan subsidies and Medicare coverage next year.

Those losing their health benefits who were previously eligible include refugees of war, asylees who fled persecution, victims of sex trafficking, and interpreters who risked their lives assisting U.S. service members in Afghanistan — all of whom are in the country with the federal government’s permission. The law does not affect coverage for a few groups, including those who hold green cards.

The Congressional Budget Office, the nonpartisan budget scorekeeper, estimated the law’s changes eliminating Medicaid eligibility for many noncitizen adults with legal status would lead to about 100,000 more immigrants being .

Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News asked several states how many Medicaid enrollees they had identified as being at risk of losing coverage under the provision. More than 281,000 immigrants from nine states and the District of Columbia are expected to lose Medicaid in October.

While some may be able to obtain coverage elsewhere, the state numbers suggest hundreds of thousands of immigrants nationally are at imminent risk of becoming uninsured.

The CBO declined to comment.

Florida alone identified nearly 177,000 immigrants who would no longer qualify for the state’s Medicaid program starting in October, said Anna Holaday, a spokesperson for the Florida Department of Children and Families. The agency verified the enrollees’ immigration status through government databases and sent notices to people to give them an opportunity to provide more information proving they remain eligible, Holaday said.

Arizona predicts nearly 28,000 could lose eligibility. New Jersey expects 15,000 to 25,000 of its noncitizen residents to lose their Medicaid coverage. In North Carolina, it’s about 29,000, and in Washington state it’s 11,000. Final numbers from states on how many Medicaid enrollees have been terminated from the program won’t be available until later this fall.

Lawmakers rely on the CBO to understand the budgetary and economic impacts of proposed legislation. Yet the federal agency did not publish estimates on the One Big Beautiful Bill Act’s impact on noncitizens enrolled in Medicaid until a month after Congress passed the bill and Trump signed it into law.

Much of the attention around Medicaid changes in the law has centered on implementation of work requirements as a new condition of eligibility for many enrollees starting in January. The CBO estimates the requirements will increase the number of uninsured Americans by about 5 million by 2034.

Without health coverage, immigrants are likely to lose access to doctors, prescription drugs, and most other medical services. They still could qualify for coverage of emergency care under a separate program known as Emergency Medicaid.

“I came here to live a better life,” said Ahin, a refugee who left war-torn Syria for Turkey in 2011 and came to the U.S. in October 2024. She spoke with Ñî¹óåú´«Ã½Ò•îl Health News on the condition that she be identified by only her first name, out of concern for her privacy and security.

Soon after arriving in the U.S., she developed severe abdominal pain that required intestinal surgery. Those costs, along with ongoing visits to specialists, were covered by Medicaid.

“I’m really worried about this,” she said. “It’s truly a terrible situation.”

Ahin, 25, said she doesn’t know what she will do if she needs to go to the hospital — she wouldn’t be able to pay the bill. She lives in a small apartment in New Jersey with her mother. Medicaid has also been vital to her mother, who has asthma.

Health Benefits Wane for Immigrants

The federal government required states to notify immigrants who will soon lose coverage, but immigrant rights advocates say some states did not begin sending letters until September. That’s given enrollees little time to react, including to respond if the state was mistakenly ending their coverage.

Cutting off Medicaid coverage is just the first move to drop government health benefits provided to many lawfully present immigrants. Under a change starting in January, the CBO estimates, about 1 million will lose eligibility for government subsidies to buy individual health coverage on Affordable Care Act marketplaces by 2034. And they will also lose access to Medicare, a change expected to affect about 100,000 immigrants, the agency forecasts.

Trump has argued that taxpayer-funded programs should be reserved for American citizens. As Congress debated the legislation in May 2025, the White House with the misleading claim that the One Big Beautiful Bill Act would remove Medicaid coverage for people who are in the country without authorization.

Under long-standing law, people who are in the country without authorization do not qualify for the general Medicaid program that is funded by state and federal dollars.

The health coverage cuts are part of a broader Trump strategy to send a message that immigrants are not welcome in the United States, said Ben D’Avanzo, senior strategist for federal advocacy at the National Immigration Law Center. The Trump administration has also moved to kick people with legal status off the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, and tried to do the same with the children’s program Head Start until a federal judge intervened. 

In addition to green card holders, people under age 19 and immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, or certain Pacific Island countries their Medicaid coverage affected by the law.

A Few States Try To Fill in the Gaps

Some states are staving off the coverage loss using their own money. California expects about 148,000 immigrants to lose Medicaid coverage. But the state is spending $365 million for a separate program to keep them covered until July 2027, according to Tony Cava, a spokesperson for the California Department of Health Care Services.

New York and Pennsylvania also have state-funded health coverage for many of the immigrants who are affected.

Carlos Alarcón, health and public benefits policy manager with the California Immigrant Policy Center, an advocacy group, said taking away health coverage for immigrants will affect the health of the state as a whole. The fewer people who have access to healthcare, the easier it will be for contagious diseases to spread, as happened during the covid pandemic, he said.

Alarcón said he hopes the state-funded coverage will be extended under California’s next governor. Polling released in September showed Democrat Xavier Becerra, secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services under President Joe Biden, leading Republican Steve Hilton in the gubernatorial race. Becerra to issue an executive order to maintain health coverage for every Californian affected by federal cuts.

“I believe there’s folks in the legislature that will really want to fight to make sure that we restore things as much as we can,” Alarcón said.

Refugee assistance groups say they have been trying to educate people in their communities and direct them to health clinics that are government-funded or free.

“We’ve just been scrambling trying to find free medical care,” said , co-founder of the . “To not be a welcoming place is the most un-American thing I’ve ever experienced.”  

Andrea Mendez Perez, director at Interfaith-RISE, a refugee resettlement organization in southern New Jersey, said the Trump administration has elongated the process for people to get green cards and is now taking away coverage from those without them. Before 2025, it typically took about six months to qualify for a green card, documentation that allows a foreign national to live and work permanently in the United States, she said. Today, it’s well over a year.

For many of these immigrants on Medicaid, losing their ability to get their prescribed medications “is a life-or-death situation,” Mendez Perez said.

Ahin, the Syrian refugee, applied for permanent residency soon after arriving in the U.S. two years ago. Mendez Perez said she should have her green card by now, which would have spared her from being dropped under the GOP law. “She is stuck in the middle and has no control.”

Colleen McCauley, policy and advocacy director at the Camden Coalition, a nonprofit that helps connect people to healthcare in southern New Jersey, said the loss of coverage is devastating.

“None of them did anything wrong,” McCauley said, “and they are losing coverage.”

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Confusion and Angst Follow State’s Early Rollout of Medicaid Work Rules /medicaid/medicaid-work-rules-requirements-worries-dropped-coverage-montana/ Tue, 29 Sep 2026 09:00:00 +0000 /?p=2288566 MISSOULA, Mont. — Bethany Zulick went back to school in January to become a high school English teacher.

Years ago, she taught English as a second language overseas and loved it.

“It’s so exciting to me to watch someone learn a new word or have that spark of understanding,” she said.

Zulick knew she could earn enough money as a substitute teacher to make going back to school financially viable — except for the cost of health insurance. She didn’t want to risk being unable to see her doctor for her allergies, or for preventative care.

The offered through Montana State University was too expensive, Zulick said, almost as much as her tuition. But then she found a solution that allowed her to make the leap: Medicaid. She wouldn’t have to pay any monthly premiums.

It worked well for a few months, as Zulick taught by day and took online classes at night.

But in June, the state sent a letter that she said left her “completely confused.” She knew Montana was rolling out a system for work requirements over the summer, but she thought she wouldn’t have to prove she met the requirements until next year, when her Medicaid enrollment came up for renewal.

Yet the letter from the Montana Department of Public Health and Human Services outlining the new requirements gave conflicting information on when Zulick would have to prove she was meeting them. First it said at her next renewal, which would be sometime next spring. Lower down it told her she would have to submit paperwork to prove compliance much earlier — “within 30 days” of the date on the letter, June 26. She wondered: Was it a boilerplate mass-mailing letter she could ignore, or was her insurance on the line?

the new work requirements by Jan. 1, but three states — Montana, , and — have already gotten started. Medicaid advocates worry that the expedited timeline in those states will lead to thousands of people losing coverage because they’re confused about the new rules, even if they are eligible for the program — and that Montana may offer a troubling preview of what will happen nationwide next year.

State health department officials maintain they are well prepared and told state lawmakers they plan to process roughly 5,000 enrollees monthly.

Growing Confusion, Dwindling Help

Rep. of the Montana House has gotten dozens of calls from confused constituents, specifically about letters like the one Zulick received.

“The notices coming from the department are very, very confusing, and it’s very hard to find help figuring out what’s going on,” said the Democratic legislator, who asked health department leaders about those letters at a hearing in early September. Letters being sent to enrollees have been updated to be clearer, state health officials told lawmakers at the hearing.

In Montana, nearly are subject to the new rules. Medicaid costs are split between the federal and state governments, and states are responsible for administering the program, which provides health insurance for people with low incomes or disabilities.

Under the new work requirements, enrollees must document that they’re working, volunteering, or studying 80 hours per month — or they must show that they qualify for one of a range of exemptions, such as being “medically frail” or being the primary caretaker for a family member.

Montana began with a soft launch of the work requirements in July and gave enrollees until Oct. 1 to comply.

Critics contend that isn’t enough time, because the state hasn’t finished setting up new computer systems or hiring the staff it said it would need. Of the 59 positions, only about 20 were filled, state health department officials told state lawmakers during the Sept. 9 hearing, adding that numbers had fluctuated amid staff turnover.

State health officials have said they’ll eventually be able to automatically verify that students are enrolled in public universities. However, that computer system isn’t expected to be up and running until next year, leaving students like Zulick to track down and submit the correct paperwork to prove their college enrollment.

However, there are fewer outside resources to help residents with these bureaucratic tasks.

For example, , a nonprofit that helps Montanans fill out such paperwork, lost federal funding last year, going from a staff of 18 to two part-time employees working a phone line.

The state does operate a helpline, but that Montanans stay on hold much longer than the national average and that many callers hang up before they connect with a state employee.

“We were worried about chaos that could be generated by the state rushing,” said , CEO of the Montana Healthcare Foundation, a nonprofit aimed at improving health in the state. “Given how little information the state has provided about what they are doing, I’m much more worried about chaos.”

Wernham pointed to a similar upheaval in 2023, when states undertook a massive process to redetermine the eligibility of all Medicaid enrollees, after regular eligibility checks were paused during the pandemic.

Many Montanans who were financially eligible lost Medicaid coverage for technical reasons, such as incorrectly filling out paperwork — roughly 87,000, according to state data from two years ago.

Even vulnerable Montanans who didn’t need to file paperwork, because their coverage should have been automatically renewed, were dropped from the Medicaid rolls, including people who were homeless.

A photo of Rep. Mary Caferro speaking at a podium seen from a different angle. Behind her stand several women holding signs that read, "Keep the care in healthcare," and "Medicaid saves lives. Hands off Medicaid."
Montana House Democrat Mary Caferro addresses protesters in July at the Montana Capitol in Helena. Montana is among three states that have adopted Medicaid work requirements months ahead of the federal deadline. The new rules have confused some Montanans on Medicaid, and critics say that confusion will lead to people unnecessarily losing coverage. (Aaron Bolton/MTPR)

Long-Sought Requirements in State

The Montana Legislature passed a measure expressing its desire to add work requirements to Medicaid, but the state didn’t have permission from the federal government to move forward until now.

Having work requirements creates accountability for people who rely on the social safety net, said Montana Senate President , a Republican.

“In an economy like this, if you’re an able-bodied adult that’s able to work, you really do need to step up,” he said.

Asked about confusion among enrollees about the rules, Regier responded that the Oct. 1 deadline offered more than enough time to work out the kinks in the new system.

In the end, Zulick learned she didn’t need to worry about that deadline, because she got married in July and no longer qualified for Medicaid, although she didn’t know that would be the case when she got the June letter.

But others remain scared about losing coverage, including Heather Reel, who attended a rally at the state capitol in July to push back against Montana’s early rollout.

Reel relies on Medicaid for its mental health coverage. Without it, she said, she would struggle to care for her teenage son, who has autism and is nonverbal. Between her shifts at a fast food restaurant and caring for her son, she’s scared she’ll be too busy to figure out how to report her work hours.

Montana’s Rollout a Potential Preview

The handful of states that are implementing the Medicaid work requirements early are building the plane as they’re taking off, said , who provides Medicaid analysis for The Commonwealth Fund, a nonprofit focused on making healthcare more equitable.

“Montana is going to be an example for what we might see nationally as things roll out,” she said.

Although most other states are sticking to the Jan. 1 deadline to build and test their Medicaid systems, they still might not have all the components in place, she said.

If states can’t automatically renew or deny coverage based on the new rules, state workers will have to do so manually, on a case-by-case basis. That could create backlogs and more disruption, leading more people to lose coverage, Coleman said.

Jon Ebelt, a spokesperson for the state’s health department, said in a statement that Montana’s Medicaid office is ready for the change on Oct. 1.

“We are committed to ensuring eligible Montanans maintain coverage while meeting requirements, and we will continue to monitor implementation closely,” Ebelt said.

Democratic state lawmakers have repeatedly asked state health officials to extend the Oct. 1 deadline for enrollees to comply with the new rules, but they’ve said they have no plans to do so.

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